My 1st Black And White Allies Deck

Standard* Wilysnake

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Wilysnake says... #1

What can i do against a deck that is based on exiling my creatures?

February 23, 2016 1:40 a.m.

Zorynjaibro says... #2

Remove Anafenza and Kalitas ASAP. If they play Flaying Tendrils, good luck!

February 23, 2016 4:34 p.m.

Wilysnake says... #3

And not just that, i've been playing with a friend and most of his creatures have ingest too

February 23, 2016 4:42 p.m.

Zorynjaibro says... #4

That's why this deck is best played aggro. Hit them fast and use cards like Foul-Tongue Shriek to finish the game quicker. Also, don't be afraid to hold creatures if you think they'll be wiping with Tendrils. Against removal heavy decks, I usually put 1 or 2 creatures out at a time to piddle them down, then after they kill everything, play the ones I was holding, or March from the Tomb If my graveyard is left full.

February 23, 2016 6:51 p.m.

Wilysnake says... #5

I'm playing with my friend and these are some cards he is using against me:Infinite Obliteration, Languish, Flaying Tendrils, Ruinous Path. I told him that he is building his deck thinking of my deck. How i'm i going to use March from the Tomb if he's exiling my cards even with ingest ability? Everytime he uses Infinite Obliteration, he exiles my Drana's Emissary, Drana, Liberator of Malakir, and/or Cliffhaven Vampire.

February 23, 2016 8:20 p.m.

Zorynjaibro says... #6

The best creature to get in this deck is Kalastria Healer. Planeswalkers will help against board wipes, if he's playing heavy removal, sideboard a few more creatures instead of March, and some Foul Tongue Shrieks.

February 23, 2016 10:44 p.m.

Zorynjaibro says... #7

And here I was thinking Abzan Aggro was an aggro deck...I don't know what to think any more.

February 23, 2016 11:03 p.m.

Wilysnake says... #8

Hey guys! I finally received 3 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, 2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor, 1 Ob Nixilis Reignited, 2 Utter End, i've got 1 Rally the Ancestors. So, how can i fix my deck with those cards?

Questions:-Can i use the planeswalker's ability the same turn i cast it? Or do i have to wait until my next turn (because of summoning sickness) to use it?

-same question but with Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim

February 24, 2016 1:34 p.m.

Wilysnake says... #9

February 24, 2016 9:07 p.m.

Zorynjaibro says... #10

Any card that has summoning sickness can't: attack, or use any ability that requires it to tap as part of the activation.

Planeswalkers can use their abilities as soon as they enter, however if they become a creature...(summoning sickness)

Add all the cards you got, take out the silkwrap and snares, grasp, and masterwork. All these cards don't really add to your board state.

Utter End should be used when you really need it, or wait til you do. Planeswalkers will keep you afloat if they board wipe, or have your creatures outmatched. Haven't tried Rally because it costs double white, but should be good.

With all the planeswalkers, Oath of Gideon becomes very valuable.

February 24, 2016 11:37 p.m.

Argy says... #11

This looks really good now.

+1 from me.

When I have time later I'll test it and give more detailed feedback.

February 25, 2016 1:39 a.m.

Wilysnake says... #12

Argeaux Finally, with my new cards i have more options to make the deck better...

February 25, 2016 1:50 a.m.

Argy says... #13

I was reading through the comments and I agree with putting in Vampiric Rites for card draw.

It will also help you to gain life so you can activate Ayli.

Since you've asked for specifics I would do this:

-2x Stasis Snare
+2x Immolating Glare

-2x Transgress the Mind
+2x Vampiric Rites

Put the subtracted cards in your Sideboard and sub them in as needed.

February 25, 2016 2:13 a.m.

Argy says... #14

This is working nicely.

+1 from me.

February 25, 2016 11:35 p.m.

Wilysnake says... #15

How are you testing it?

February 26, 2016 12:12 a.m.

Argy says... #16

Against a range of decks in my Oath of the Gatewatch and Battle for Zendikar folders.

Also against these two:

Sizzle
Ingest is Best

February 26, 2016 12:33 a.m.

Wilysnake says... #17

With the planeswalkers i'm about to add?

February 26, 2016 12:43 a.m.

Argy says... #18

I test it as is.

Once you add different cards I will test that version.

Just be aware that adding Planeswalkers can weaken a deck.

I have built that many decks starting with Planeswalkers, only to take them out because they are harming the synergy.

February 26, 2016 1:02 a.m.

Zorynjaibro says... #19

Planeswalkers make this deck continue to advance after turn 5. Gideon and Sorin pump creatures and create tokens, there's no other card or cards that add to 4 CMC that compare. Also, if you keep their attention on the planeswalkers, your creatures stay safe.

Unless you have a great card draw ability, Rites is too weak, you'll end up topdecking for single creatures that can't change the game like a planeswalker can.

February 26, 2016 2:19 a.m.

Wilysnake says... #20

Question, if my tokens die, do they go to my graveyard?

February 26, 2016 2:37 a.m.

Argy says... #21

They stay in your Graveyard for a moment, enough to trigger enter the graveyard effects.

Then they cease to exist.

February 26, 2016 2:51 a.m.

Wilysnake says... #22

What do you mean?

February 26, 2016 3:08 a.m.

Argy says... #23

So, if an Opponent has an Enchantment that says something like, "When a Creature an Opponent controls enters the battlefield it deals 2 damage to its controller", every time one of your tokens goes into the graveyard you will receive two damage.

However, when a token leaves the field it disappears from the game. That means you can't get tokens out of your graveyard because once they go in there they vanish.

February 26, 2016 3:13 a.m. Edited.

Wilysnake says... #24

So, that means that using March from the Tomb or Rally the Ancestors won't work with tokens that were destroyed?

February 26, 2016 3:17 a.m.

Argy says... #25

Those cards won't work for tokens because tokens cease to exist once they enter the graveyard, so there will be no tokens in the graveyard for you to return to the field with those cards.

For future reference, tokens have a CMC of 0, and if they are sent back to your hand they also cease to exist.

February 26, 2016 3:21 a.m.

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