Thanks chadsansing for the suggestion! If you like Jhoria check out my deck this idea came from: Jhoira gonna get your ass beat, mang!

This was a fun way to make it Tribal with something niftykeen as opposed to the usual Eldrazi fatties.

You forgot Jokulhaups

Instead of Aether Gale I would recommend Cyclonic Rift. As for cuts I would recommend Outpost Siege, Storm Cauldron, and Blasphemous Act.

Instead of Aether Gale I would recommend Cyclonic Rift. As for cuts I would recommend Outpost Siege, Storm Cauldron, and Blasphemous Act.

Darkshadow327, why Cyclonic Rift? I cant overload it using suspend but Aether Gale removes multiples.

Storm Cauldron is staying because I can still suspend something and not lose lands while everyone else will bounce their lands. Plus Piracy + Storm Cauldron is kinda sick.

Outpost Siege is gone - was there as a way to get to suspend something possibly better than in hand since draw is an issue.

Looks like a fun deck! Since you are playing around with suspend, have you thought of trying out Aeon Chronicler? As long as its suspended, you'll be drawing a card off of it, and if you can manipulate the counters, maybe a few per turn. It seems like it would fit your theme.

bushido_man96 oh damn... didn't know about that card. Awesome.since I can cheat its suspend cost! Thanks!

You're welcome!

I always found Paradox Haze to be an underrated card especially for Jhoira get your suspend twice as fast.

If you have a lot of ETB effects have you considered Panharmonicon?

soul22 Well... It is an awesome card for her but... there are sometimes better options. For example, if I have Peregrine Drake or Scourge of Valkas as examples (or any great ETB creature) and Crystal Shard, would it be better to play Paradox Haze or say Twinning Glass? Or Belbe's Portal? Paradox haze is wonderful but I'm trying to figure out how to play without it to free up a potentially sick slot. Paradox haze can REALLY suck to have in play if opponents play stuff that makes me sac a creature during my upkeep, or that gives me damage then, etc. So it comes down to deck workflow I guess.

jpsuchecki I did, but I don't have many ETBs in this version :) Thinking about that because I wanna use Crystal Shard + Twinning Glass for that reason too.

Consider Mirage Mirror. It has more versatility and can copy things your enemies have.

jpsuchecki wouldnt trigger the ETBs my creatures do have and wouldn't trigger Warstorm Surge nor Dragon Tempest though. If I can actually bounce stuff out and into play again, I think I may add Paradox Engine. That, plus crystal shard and twinning glass can combo with lots of stuff in the deck for wins.

I might be missing the obvious, but why wouldn't it trigger Warstorm Surge or Dragon Tempest? I get why it doesn't do much for the ETB, which is why I suggested it as an alternative to panharmonicon. I count at least 10 cards that could benefit from it in the mainboard.

Furthermore, is Crystal Shard + Twinning Glass really worth it? With only a few ETB effects, seems like a lot of work to set up a which only benefits 4-5 cards.

Also, without playtesting, I would guess you might suffer mana problems in mid to late game. This might not be too bad in a dual colored deck, but I imagine those mana abilities could suck you dry. I have a few friends who play dragon themed decks and they all seem to suffer from the same problem.

(On a somewhat related note, I know I might be giving advice to a more advanced player, I just wanted some help on my EDH decks and was following the rules for posting. So if anything here seems newbish, just ignore it. I think your deck is pretty interesting.)

Well jpsuchecki, Mirage Mirror is already on the board so if you change it to something then etb wouldnt trigger. It'd be mostly beneficial for just the checks on number of dragons a couple cards do and the enchanments (which WOULD br nice), unless im missing something?

Crystal shard and twinning glass plus Peregrine Drake - cast the drake, bounce to hand, cast for free gets me 5 untapped lands. Then 2 to bounce and cast again for a net of 3 mana, etc for Infinite mana if paradox engine is out.

Or use them to trigger warstorm surge or tempest for only 2 mana with any dragon.

And it'll let me cast dude from suspension, attack with it and then bounce to hand and back down - effectively a cost of 2 mana to have it untapped and become a blocker for next opponents next turn (on top of any etbs it might trigger) while I wait for my suspensions to pop.

Plus a few creature ETBs themselves.

Also lets me come back if a wipe happens or general spot removal, etc.

That's how I'm looking at it anyway heh. I could be wrong. :)

Ah, I think I see where the confusion is. I wasn't suggesting Mirage Mirror for ETB effects, I was suggesting using it as a workaround. If you used it to copy things like Warstorm Surge, that would effectively be like having two of them. Then, if you paid the two mana to copy, every time you played a creature, you would get the benefit from both.

jpsuchecki ah,yeah it would be slick for that. Maaaaaybbbbeeeee I should drop something for it. It'd fit well but not sure.

I would recommend to go for big Eldrazi instead of Dragons and more cards to remove everything from board like Jokulhaups or Decree of Annihilation.

And some tutors obviously

Nah,big eldrazi are boring. There's a reason I went with dragon tribal instead :)