yeah me too. It's definitely improving my skills.and damnation works like a charm. ,but after extensive playtesting i tend to get mana flooded when i want to be drawing non land cards instead.

im thinking maelstrom pulse might be better theres been a few situations abrupt decay just hasnt cut it. :(

like against pod decks (seething anger)

Hmmmmmm, well.... I'm for either. When I play test it, I think they are both advantageous. It depends on the deck your against. Abrupt decay costing less, so you can discard and remove, rather than playing mealstrom one turn and then discard the other. But mealstrom can be mass destruction. But how many decks get multiples of the same card down frequently... Don't know, it's your decision. I am still slightly leaning towards decay because of cost, and how your deck works with discarding; but again, mealstrom has its benefits.

Oh yah, you put a nuke in there. So, there is your mass creature destruction, and decay deals with the occasional non creature that supports his nuked creatures. I suggest keeping decay.

well my main problem with decay is that its only 3 or less cost cards. I've had people get down pods and those are four cost then it doesn't matter if i discard they can still get what they want out.

plus theyre like mini nukes lol

yah...

Hah, i just saw you at the tale end of your game at untap.in :D then you commented here. I know your pattern!!!

you did what was i playing and did i win i forgot.lol

a good argument for rakdos charm"LittleLeaf says...

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Rakdos Charm . That is your sideboard. Rakdos Charm . This card has modes that hose all three of the number one decks, and then some.

Mode Number One: By exiling all cards in a graveyard, you can immediately gimp a Dredgevine deck, erase all the text on Snapcaster Mage , and stop Melira Pod's combos (because the persist creature hits the graveyard, then the return trigger goes on the stack.) Need I say more here?

Mode Number Two: Very good against Affinity. This will probably be your only answer to a resolved Cranial Plating off the top of the deck, and can act as extra copies of Terminate if they don't run Welding Jar (few lists do, these days). Besides its obvious uses against Affinity, it can also bust a Birthing Pod or any other miscellaneous artifact.

Mode Number Three: This seems useless at first, but it can actually instantly kill a Splinter Twin player. You wait until they declare an attack with their near infinite tokens, then fire off Rakdos Charm to nuke them before they get to nuke you.

Seriously, I would not pick up fewer than two of these. Unlike other hate cards which single out a strategy or archetype, this hates on all Tier one decks, and then does collateral."

Huh? (jaw dropped in awe do to being lost....)

i found it on another discard deck's feed its beautiful.

some user called little leaf posted it.

Rakdos Charm

oh, ok........ sure, i disagree? um, at least for ur deck............hmmm ok :D

well think about it a pod deck using kiki combo swings with infinite creatures. You play rakdos at instant speed in the pre combat phase and pick each creature deals 1 damage to its controller. That makes them take infinite damage before their creatures swing.

Then the weakness to a discard deck is is dredge and flash back stuff you can pick exile graveyard.

Then a lot of combos rely on persist creatures. You can exile the persist creature as it hits the graveyard.

then you can pick destroy an artifact which would just be useful for taking out ink moths and equipments and other artifacts.

itd be great sideboard.

You need a reliable win con. Stripping your opponent's hand is nice, but relying solely on Nyxathid to win seems very risky.

and Creeping Tar Pit ,but yes i agree. thankyou. :)

That Nyxathid is a sexy beast!!! I want one! XD

(Any suggestions I could even come up with were handled already!)

well please share which ones on the maybe board you like or which strategies you think i should go for.

thanks though!

Okay, since you have given us permission to "cuss it out", I'm going to state the following: please, fucking please run Liliana of the Veil . She is the single best fucking card for this archetype. Period. And please, fucking please run the full damn playset of Thoughtseize . Why you would run less than 4 is beyond me.

The splashes of green and blue for two different cards are definitely not worth it. Play mono-black. The splashes just over-complicate your mana base, and the cards you're splashing for aren't even that good.

You need more win-cons. Run 4 The Rack and 4 Shrieking Affliction . Then remove Nyxathid as he's too much of a win-more card. Replace him with Ensnaring Bridge to lock your opponent out as you grind them to death with The Rack and Shrieking Affliction .

Take out Damnation . If your discard strategy works, they won't ever have enough creatures to warrant a board wipe. Run instant speed removal such as Dismember and Victim of Night .

If (when) you remove Damnation , your curve will all be below 4. Run 22 lands maximum. 26 is absolutely way too many. Most control decks won't run 26.

Also, one more thing. No motherfucking Temples in a Modern deck please. They suck.

"No motherfucking Temples in a Modern deck," TitansFTW, lol... WOW, I didn't know temples mate with people's mothers! :D, just messing with ya.

I do see the purpose in the temples. With the scry, one you can remove a crapper from on top of ur library away. This helps with draws. This deck gets all the mana it needs fairly quickly, so if you scry a land then put it away. However, I am not liking them enough to keep them. Titan is right, reduce the lands a bit and maybe replace them with charms. I looked through all the instant speed charms, and I suggest you do so too again kylothian. I saw several that may be good.

I strongly disagree about ridding of Nyxathid . He is so beautiful, just look at that sucker. The enemy has 1 or no cards and for 3 mana you get a 6/6-7/7 beast. I do like The Rack , and Shrieking Affliction . Though I prefer Quest for the Nihil Stone , as it is 5 life per turn and an enchantment which is slightly harder to kill than an artifact like The Rack . It used to be in this deck, what happened to it kylothian? It's not like there was an issue getting the counters on it. I loved it, (as it killed me.)

Liliana of the Veil was being considered for this deck... I am agreeing with TitansFTW, remember having all those discard cards in hand? It will hurt the enemy more to discard then yourself when you activate her first ability, plus her ultimate is very devastating and she can cover creature destruction because of her second ability; and she only costs 3, for 1 card that is permanent, which means she can continually do this every turn..... I like it a lot.

Damnation is a necessary card, I think. The targeted removal TitansFTW recommended won't hurt hexproof creatures. Against a buff deck, or unblockable deck, which manages to get 1 or 2 hexproof/unblockables down are untouchable unless nuked by Damnation .

There is my 2 cents...

ok so to respond read the note at the top of my description i was testing out new land cards. The temple does suck and was removed from deck. lol

TitansFTW Yes, I'll run a full set of Thoughtseize .

Im hesitant to run mono-black though the removal cards for mono-black suck.

The card you pointed out Victim of Night Pathetic!!! what if i run into any of those kinds of creatures The card would be utterly useless in that situation. I want this deck to be effective against every other deck it faces and the cards i have in hand to be useful in any situation.Dismember on the other hand its a nice card even capable of destroying indestructible creatures ill consider it.

As for current removal cards theyre perfect except for not being instant speed.

Maelstrom this can destroy any non-land permanent. Its very useful. Do i even need to explain how that is useful?

• any planes walker

• any artifact

• any enchantment

• any creature

Damnation quite useful

• all creatures

• even hexproofs

• even regenerates

I may add Alchemist's Refuge though to solve the instant speed issue.

If i was using solely the removal cards you wanted me to run. I would be open to alot of different bad things happening to me.

As for Ensnaring Bridge I've thought about it before ,but there is too much low cost anti-artifact spells I don't want to depend on that for my life. even if i have instant speed discard they top deck draw that and in response remove the bridge and I'm dead.................It's very easy to get around.

And To both TitansFTW and nickiru I've had cards like The Rack In there before I mean It's nice yay they are taking damage ,but it's not helping me gain control of the game and it can easily be removed. Then my advantage is over.

I've found it's much more useful to invest that card space into cards that will help me gain control over the opponent. Its been much more affective for me to use land creatures or Nyxathid to do the necessary damage. The reason being is that land creatures are very hard to kill , all i have to do to ensure their safety is simply make sure a hand is empty or know there aren't any threats before i activate them. They consistently win me the game. As opposed to cards like The Rack .

However Nyxathid is a win more card Ill consider replacing him with some of your suggestions.

As for Liliana of the Veil , i probably should.

TitansFTW I really loved your comment though very helpful. If you think I'm wrong about anything i said please tell me so.

And if you have any ideas that can help me have the permanent removal i want while reducing my colors in my deck please tell me and I'll adjust the rest of the deck to match.

Now to both TitansFTW and nickiru.One thing this deck has trouble with ironically is other land creatures so Im thinking of adding something like Ghost Quarter or Encroaching Wastes to the deck.Any thoughts