TheLivingCME, ComboCrazy and TheFoilAjani (and anyone else looking, they are just the ones that more avidly pushed for this particular theme in the deck).

First off if you're tired of me asking you questions about this deck please just let me know. I know I've called on yal a lot. I greatly appreciate everything yal have done for this deck and just let me know if you would like me to return the favor. If I wasn't as broke as I am now I'd just buy some tokens and feature a deck from each of yal. =]

Secondly I have added an endgame beater in the form of Phyrexian Obliterator. I truly did not find a way to put two in the deck, so one mainboard and one sideboard. I'd take any recommendations for the second mainboard, just please don't be upset if I keep it at one. I'm trying to make sure my deck stays the same theme that I've been trying to keep. However, no one mentioned Drana, Liberator of Malakir. I was just wondering how yal felt about her? Obviously Phyrexian Obliterator is absolutely more of a powerhouse; but the lower CMC, pumping my recurring creatures over and over, and possibly the fact that she isn't as big of a threat as the others so she may stay on the board longer; were possibilities that I thought she should at least be considered.

Obviously everything comes down to playtesting, and I have finally started buying the cards for this deck. It just will be the lands, bob, and Liliana that will take awhile and definitely more than one check. Just let me know what yal think of Drana, Liberator of Malakir in the beater slot.

Hey bro, don't even mention it! It's been a pleasure to help you figuring out your deck, and I'm happy it's becoming a reality! Good luck with it!

I agree on running just a few beaters, they're on the end of the curve of the deck and having too many could be harmful.

As for the Drana, you're right, it would be a nice addition! I think you could swap a Quest for her!

TheLivingCME She is the only one I'd switch for a Quest for the Gravelord. Other beaters are by themselves, but she can boost my other creatures. Quest is basically a 5/5 for one mana and to take it out for anything means that it needs to seriously help the deck. Drana, Liberator of Malakir is one that can do that. Phyrexian Obliterator and Abyssal Persecutor are powerhouses, but easily removed (with all of the removal that is in modern). Drana can at least leave the counters. That was my thought process. All will be playtested. Thanks for the input man.

I completely agree, an "utility beater" is something one can always use. And you're welcome! :)

I think whatever your beater is it's going to die pretty quick because they aren't going to kill your small creatures because they come right back. Maybe try something like Retreat to Emeria or Glorious Anthem to just swing with a bunch of pumped creatures that keep coming back, and then side heavily against token decks. Just my opinion though, if you keep a beater Drana does similar and has a body, so that works.

Red_X I completely agree with you. My only rebuttle would be Path to Exile is the main removal card and some people, who can't handle aggressive decks, would actually want to take out the recurring creatures. And if they don't know about the final beater, or expect it, than all is well. Obviously game two would be different, but sideboard does help with some of that.

You're not the only one who has suggested white. Some have suggested it for Path to Exile, others for a more control aspect with Oblivion Ring, and others have suggested changing the theme to something similar to B/W tokens. It is something that I will sleep on.

I took this deck with me to an FNM, (I wasn't playing it. I was playing Amulet Bloom before it is banned I'm assuming), but when I had time in between matches I tested this deck out. My main problem was game one Splinter Twin decks, and big things (talking about Tron here). I just can't do anything against big things, which is where the white could possibly come in handy. I may look into more mainboard stuff to get rid of permanents like Maelstrom Pulse. I'll playtest to see where it goes. Just wanted to let yal know it did playtest well overall, and just need to work on certain aspects of the game.

My bad, I mixed this deck up with A Pox on Both Your Houses!. That's a valid point, and it will probably boil down to which test better. Like the deck.

Drana is good, but those +1/+1 counters won't stay on your creatures for too long because they're always dying. If you could find something to take out then sure, add her, but otherwise I think you have better options.

ComboCrazy good to see ya again man.

Smallpox will kill my creatures yes, but I did keep the Bitterblossoms to add creatures. Also, even if one of my creatures dies, but I have three or four on the board with an extra counter, it is worth the tradeoff. Especially if I get rid of the only creature my opponent has. I've taken out Tragic Slip (although working it into the sideboard probably), so the death count has reduced a little bit. My creatures would die a lot simply because I'd keep attacking no matter what my opponent had, and my creatures were small. That would change if they can get boosted. Thought process anyway. This is still in testing and I will try some of the other creatures as well. This is just what the deck looks like at this moment.

So Splintertwin, eh?

Lol yea. Now it's no longer a worry. Tron is definitely a problem, but I can at least last a turn or two by Beast Withining there lands. If I can get enough agro gowing Karn Liberated isn't as big of a threat because I can attack and get rid of him. Also I've added two Thoughtseize to help with hand disruption to slow my opponent down.

How do you feel about the list as of right now TheFoilAjani?

TheFoilAjani, ComboCrazy, Red_X, RedJokr, TheLivingCME, and Bloodspawn. I was just wondering what yal would think of about two cards that I have been considering. Nissa, Voice of Zendikar and possibly Infernal Tutor.

Nissa, Voice of Zendikar can create blockers and can put counters on my creatures. Also late game draw power is definitely a benefit if it gets there. Three CMC is a bit much for the deck, but I feel like I can get there being that I already have Liliana of the Veil and Drana, Liberator of Malakir. I was debating on taking out one Drana, Liberator of Malakir, Liliana of the Veil, or possibly one Bitterblossom. Nissa, Voice of Zendikar can create blockers without losing life therefore that is a possibility that Bitterblossom could be taken out; losing flying could hurt though. Nissa can create counters for my creatures on her own therefore Drana, Liberator of Malakir could be a potential. Liliana of the Veil is another 3 mana planeswalker therefore I'm not upping the average CMC of the deck. Also I feel I have enough discard and removal to where it could be a possibility at least.

Infernal Tutor became an interesting suggestion. After playtesting decks at FNMs (this deck isn't completed so I haven't been able to play it, but many people have been willing to playtest it against their decks after the initial match) hellbent happens quite often. Even if it doesn't cards that are beneficial to get from the deck are Smallpox, Abrupt Decay, Beast Within, and even possibly Quest for the Gravelord. After sideboard Surgical Extraction and possibly more hand disruption with Inquisition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize if Surgical Extractions are already in my hand. I was considering adding in two. Possibly to take out both Thoughtseizes and put them in the sideboard, possibly one Bitterblossom if I don't decide to exchange it for Nissa, Voice of Zendikar, and even one Beast Within being that I can tutor for it.

These are two possible cards that I have looked into and could possibly work with the deck. I was wondering if yal had any particular thoughts or suggestions with these cards. And of course thanks for every all of the help with the deck thus far!

I am quite fond of the decision to add Nissa, Voice of Zendikar.

Yes,she does create 0/1 blockers that do prove to be very beneficial,but it's also the late game that counts as well.You only have twenty-one lands,but even a little bit of life gain helps,including the draw.Buffing up the 0/1 Plants isn't hard either.You could just use her -2 to buff them up,and then if you have Drana,that creates stronger creatures.Having a CMC of three is not bad,so in my opinion,it would be great if you could add her.

It's always great to have a tutor.The addition of Infernal Tutor wouldn't be bad.

Thanks RedJokr. Can always count on you! What suggestions would you recommend on taking them out? My biggest problem is upping the CMC of the deck with Dark Confidant, but maybe upping up from two CMC to 3 CMC for one card probably wouldn't be a problem.

It wouldn't be too bad if you increased the CMC.Nissa could prove to be major help.

RedJokr yea fair enough, but what would you suggest to take out?

Nissa would be good to add. However it's up to you what you remove to add her. As for Infernal Tutor... I'm not sure.

ComboCrazy what would you recommend taking out for Nissa, Voice of Zendikar? Also what're your doubts on Infernal Tutor?

Hey bro! Well, I'm not exactly a fan of Nissa, Voice of Zendikar, but I can see why you'd want to add her. Personally, I'd try to put one in taking out one Beast Within.

(P.S.: If you're worried for Tron, you can use additional hate like Fulminator Mage or Ghost Quarter.)

As for Infernal Tutor, I'd suggest to avoid including it. A conditional tutor is still conditional, and the risk to having it grab something relatively useless or to be a dead card is too high in my opinion.

TheLivingCME what's up man!! Serious question why do you not care for Nissa, Voice of Zendikar? Just interested in your thought process on it.

Also why would you avoid Infernal Tutor? Again interested in your thought process.

If there's more than what you said in the previous comment. I just read the comment you posted and realized you answered m question.

Ahahah, don't worry bro, it's good to talk to you! ;)

Well, about Nissa, Voice of Zendikar ... I'm afraid she's being overestimated by the hype about a "green Liliana", while she is not in my opinion.

Entering and putting a 0/1 in play is no big thing, and entering and giving everyone a small boost requires a specific strategy. Her ultimate, finally, wouldn't happen until VERY late game.

I'm not saying she's useless, but she's a bit on the slow side (while other planeswalkers, like Lilly or Garruk, give you immediate value) and can work only in specific decks.

Of course, your deck is one of them, since the tokens are useful to you even by their own, making the boost "optional" and giving to you the ability to ulti quite reliably.

Then, about Infernal Tutor. Well, the thing is, it's good only when you are hellbent. And by playing Dark Confidant, even with the discard by Liliana, you will most likely hold some cards, like removal or discard. That means that you would end searching up for additional removal or discard in many cases, and in many cases it would be unnecessary.

I have not heard anyone call her a "green Liliana," and I would definitely object to that. Just because they are both 3 mana does not put them in the same boat as what they can do for decks, or even formats in general.

And as for Infernal Tutor I guess I do see where you are coming from wit it. It was a suggestion made by someone at an FNM and I kind of agreed with him on the hellbent, but didn't take into account how often I WASN'T hellbent over the times that I was. And the fact of turn two I'd probably rther play another creature, or even Smallpox itself, than try to gain other cards to help late game.

Lastly do you really feel that Beast Within is the best card to take out for Nissa, Voice of Zendikar? Even over Bitterblossom, Liliana of the Veil, or possibly Drana, Liberator of Malakir?

I completely agree with you! That's why she could never be a "green Liliana".

Anyway, yeah, I think Beast Within is the one. Since Nissa, Voice of Zendikar works far too well with Drana, Liberator of Malakir and Bitterblossom to take them out, and Liliana of the Veil is just a powerhouse here, it's the most reasonable choice. Besides, you still have Abrupt Decay.

TheLivingCME thanks for the suggestion man! I'll toy around with it to see what I could take out. My only problem with taking out Beast Within is game one it can help get that one win that I normally wouldn't get (cough cough Tron). Then again with enough aggro and possibly the discard outlet with both Liliana of the Veils and Smallpox maybe all I need to do is stall with Nissa, Voice of Zendikar.

Again thanks for the suggestion! Going to an FNM tonight (can't play this deck because I don't own all of it yet), but a lot of people usually don't mind testing after the initial match. I'll try to pick up some of the new nissas and see what happens.