Nekusar, the Friendship Destroyer [[PRIMER]]
Commander / EDH
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freakingShane says... #3
I'm having the same issue. I even copied the exact code (the Nykthos one) from my Purph deck and it just uploaded Nykthos as an image.
I can try one more thing, but I am not sure if I will be able to fix it...I have no clue why it is doing this.
June 7, 2017 5:58 p.m.
freakingShane says... #4
I tried both variations of code (there may be other ways to do it, but I don't know them) and no luck.
You could always start a thread asking why it isn't working on your deck, but works on my deck. You could link my deck to the thread and people can see that the code used does in fact work. I would recommend posting the code as well.
Other than that, I'm out of ideas. Sorry to let you down.
June 7, 2017 6:06 p.m.
bradtheimpaler13 says... #6
Awesome!!! I just finished converting my yidris deck into a nekusar deck. Running a lot of the same cards. Its gonna do its first run this weekend. I used to have a nekusar deck last year as well. Price of Knowledge and Seizan, Perverter of Truth both served me very well in my old Neky deck. Have you ever seen Black Vise? Kederekt Parasite is fragile as hell but its another punisher.
June 21, 2017 1:28 p.m.
Thank you for the comment, bradtheimpaler13. Seizan, Perverter of Truth is awesome, but I think the new Archfiend of Ifnir is a better choice (you can use both though). I don't play 1v1, only multiplayer, that is why I avoid Black Vise. Kederekt Parasite is nice, but to fragile.
Wish you luck this weekend, hope your friends hate your deck! o/
June 21, 2017 1:58 p.m.
bradtheimpaler13 says... #8
I have the real old copy of black vice so i didnt realise its only one opponent. I gotta take that out for something else before the weekend. We only play multiplayer too.
June 21, 2017 2:39 p.m.
Ok so have you considered the other 2 pacts in B and R to work withHive Mind? Slaughter Pact won't target most of your creatures, and your opponents can't counter each other pacts so it becomes a "kill each creature and all non-black players lose" situation with hive mind. As for Pact of the Titan nobodies going to really gonna be able to do anything with said 4/4 giant token if they don't play red in their deck.
Also, two really low cost enchantment to run with this type of deck is Vile Consumption and Breathstealer's Crypt. Vile Consumption becomes an immediate clock against any deck with tokens or high number of creatures, and Breathstealer's Crypt essentially lets you know what's going in people hands and gets rid of creatures. Not to mention they draw the card still before being forced to pay 3 life and discarding. And I don't think anyone wants to pay life when facing a Nekusar build.
July 7, 2017 8:41 a.m.
bradtheimpaler13 says... #11
I've. Been using my Nekusar deck a couple weejs now. And my friends hate it. Not as much as they hate "Shelly" (Sheoldred, Whispering One). But almost as much.
July 11, 2017 10:06 a.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #12
Ive been tuning a competitive nekusar deck since he was first printed, maybe itll give you some ideas.. i used to run most of these cards but they are long obselete to me, especially the Howling Mine effects, they are generally bad. Yes they add 1 damage a turn with nekusar, but they also provide your opponents with multiple Phyrexian Arena draws per turn, and in my years of experience that almost ALWAYS draws them into answers for nekusar and pain, removing the damage and getting free card draw.
Nekusar wins easiest by chaining Wheel of Fortune effects in a storm-like fashion, most "upkeep draw" effects are too slow and usually get you killed before you can kill your opponents, especially with the hate he draws.
Nekusar's abilities support a spellslinger deck, this makes him VERY weak to creatures, so a lack of things like Damnation, Evacuation, Toxic Deluge and Blasphemous Act should be auto-include, as well as stuff like Rakdos Charm and/or Deadly Tempest, you are severely lacking in countermagic and protection as well :/ and your creature base is remarkably high for a wizard deck,
Hopefully my pet deck list gives you some ideas, ive been working on it for 5 years
August 18, 2017 11:18 a.m.
TheRedGoat says... #13
If you're wanting to go for competitive things to play, Duskmantle Guildmage also goes infinite with Mindcrank and, unless your opponents know this, will go further under the radar than Chasm Skulker. The skulker itself works better I'd say when you can make it unblockable or sac it/the tokens for value. Neither of which you can do.
Now before I go any further I have to ask, are you trying to make this competitive for tournaments with multiple people or just competitive for 1v1 games? Personally I've tried looking up some of the combos within Nekusar's colors and most of them actually fall flat in 1v1, with straight synergy and value effects working out much better given the lower cmc averages and greater amount of instant speed plays. But that is for 1v1 mind you.
August 23, 2017 12:06 a.m.
goblinguiderevealpls says... #14
Bloodchief Ascension also goes infinite with Mindcrank! All the infinites
August 23, 2017 12:11 a.m.
Mind Over Matter and Library of Leng don't combo because of this ruling "You cant use the Library of Leng ability to place a discarded card on top of your library when you discard a card as a cost, because costs arent effects."
October 26, 2017 9:47 a.m.
SlavicGhaespar says... #16
Have you considered playing Whirlpool Warrior? He might be good for wheeling. Also, and I know it is a bit douchy Glistening Oil on Nekusar :)
November 3, 2017 4:02 a.m.
I feel like Kederekt Parasite could replace Mindcrank. Parasite seems to be more in line with your gameplan than the crank.
November 18, 2017 8:15 a.m.
First of all, sorry for the loooooooooooooooooong time without posting here, guys. I was really busy with college.
dbpunk Both pacts would be better as a finisher instead of the blue one, but I use Pact of Negation because it is a good counter. Being able to combo with Hive Mind is just an "extra". I use HV mostly to have 4 wheels in the stack. Vile Consumption and Breathstealer's Crypt and seems to be evil and fun. I'll try them, thanks!
goblinguiderevealpls I couldn't agree more with you. I'm starting to change this type of cards. Thanks!
TheRedGoat I'm thinking about replacing Kami of the Crescent Moon for Duskmantle Guildmage. I need to test a little bit more. I didn't want to make a competitive deck. I love how casual and fun a EDH game can be. However, every wednesday there is a small multplayer tournament in a store near home. I've been successful with this list so far and I do not intend to run it has an 1v1 deck.
niels_bom You are right! Thanks for the heads up!!
SlavicGhaespar Whirlpool Warrior is nice, but I still prefer Jace's Archivist. Glistening Oil is evil, and I love it! I run Phyresis, but GO is a safer choice.
Milesfuzz Kederekt Parasite is too easy to remove and makes me more dependent of having my commander in the battlefield. Also, Mindcrank gives me a insta win with Bloodchief Ascension.
December 10, 2017 4:11 p.m.
TheRedGoat says... #19
So if you're going full multiplayer, I have 2 strong suggestions for defense in Sangromancer and Crumbling Sanctuary. The former speaks for itself, but the latter is obviously a much riskier option, although I can attest to the power fact that if it sticks you've essentially padded your life total with your library. Just watch out for straight life loss effects, as that gets around the artifact.
Speaking of, what are your thoughts on Geth's Grimoire? I personally find it can be very powerful in tandem with Words of Waste, but you don't run either that or Words of Wind or Words of War. They, like Faith of the Devoted and Drake Haven are a little mana intensive, but arguably are worth the investment. Trick is you'd likely have to cut your infinite combos to make any space, or else your more over the top utility cards perhaps? Idk, but I always like playing with the words of cards in my old Nekusar build, so I do have a slight bias towards using them.
December 10, 2017 7:09 p.m.
TheRedGoat, thanks for all the sugetions!
I used to run Sangromancer, but it was easily removed. I use Exquisite Blood instead now. Notice that I do not run Sanguine Bond for combo, EB is here only for defence. I may try Crumbling Sanctuary and see if it is worth the risk.
Geth's Grimoire is a strong card in Nekusar. In the late game it will be almost a wincon, since you'll be able to chain any wheels you have for a insane amount of damage. Consecrated Sphinx also works.
I'm not sure about some of the words.
I have a stack doubt about Words of Waste. If I cast a wheel, in response pay the word cost, the word resolves first, then the wheel. When the wheel resolves, will everybody discard the hand, draw a new one and only after this the word's ability go the stack and my opponents will lose their hands? If that's the interaction, I REALLY love this.
Words of Wind says "each player", right? So it affects me...I don't like this.
Words of War deals damage only to one player. I prefer something more "global".
Faith of the Devoted and Drake Haven will cost me a lot of mana, I think I have another cards in the deck to use this amount of mana and have better results. Besides, I REALLY like my combos! 8D
December 11, 2017 8:58 a.m.
TheRedGoat says... #21
I'll admit to using Blood for the exact same reason, and would further warn that the sanctuary should not be put out if you are already drawing heavy aggro, or if it is possible for somebody to quickly turn their aggro against you. I've routinely tried using the artifact for protection, only to have a hasty Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger coming my way. If your meta runs a lot of surprise beater decks I would avoid it for now (but it is symmetrical too in case you didn't notice).
For Words of Waste you have it correct, but last I remember they only apply per card drawn as opposed to per source of card draw, hence why I said they'd be so mana intensive. Basically waste would work super well with the Geth's Grimoire, but maybe less good with Wheel of Fortune. From my experience, the words of wind and war are beset used to save a permanent on my end of things, or to burn creatures with a repeated Shock respectively. And they do help make Phyrexian Tyranny very one-sided.
As far as the cycling enchantments go, I figure that Nekusar could be built to specifically work with discard and cycling over forced draw on the opponent, but it would require more of the deck than you could spare for the other infinite combos you're already running just because they've made so much more support for the playstyle. Not that you couldn't just take a trip to value town every time you discard in the cycle build, but it just wouldn't be an infinite stay there.
December 11, 2017 10:07 a.m.
foxboy1000 says... #22
Don't mean to bother you with stuff, but I'm wondering how you got a picture on the background of this page? If you could let me know I'd be super grateful.
December 20, 2017 3:01 a.m.
aceofrainbows says... #24
You seem to have forgotten Day's Undoing. Really great wheel. Unfortunately no discard but still good.
December 26, 2017 2:03 a.m.
Hi, Wiggyman. I did not forget Day's Undoing, it is the worst possible wheel to run in a Nekusar deck. Not only you won't deal any discard damage, but also you'll be forced to end the turn. We want to "chain" our wheels as a wincon, this card do not allow us to do this.
freakingShane says... #1
Would you be comfortable with adding me as a shared user for this deck? It would allow me to edit the description and see if there is a coding issue somewhere along the way.
I've had the same problem as you with the code resulting in just a picture in the description, but there may be some tinkering I could do to fix that.
June 7, 2017 5:23 p.m.