New Phyrexian Sax

Modern insertcleverid

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Savage1988 says... #1

Replace card:Geth's Verdict with Hideous End . Not only will it let you target creatures, making it much better lategame, it also triggers your Bloodchief Ascension . For the same reason i'd say go -4 Gatekeeper of Malakir +4 Vampire Lacerator

other than that just nice and regular MBC, +1

May 17, 2011 11:24 a.m.

infectorus says... #2

I disagree about hideous end being mainboarded, I would only sideboard it in place of consuming vapors. I assume there will be enough black running around to occasionally make it a dead card.

May 17, 2011 11:42 a.m.

insertcleverid says... #3

I agree about SBing the Hideous End , that's a good idea. Thanks for the +1 comment but could you do me a solid and click the button so I get the +1 vote? That's been happpening a lot lol thanks!

May 17, 2011 11:58 a.m.

seibertross says... #4

Actually I was arguing pro Dark Tutelage , and was trying to explain to previous commenters why its a very good card in the right deck. I think you should use both!...if your drawing into all your kill spells every turn how are they going to deal you damage? Sit behind your kills while you get your combo off.

I'd take the current build: -2 Sign in Blood +2 Dark Tutelage , and call it a really sexy deck.

May 17, 2011 12:03 p.m.

zandl says... #5

lol@ the guy that said "-3 Mindcrank because milling won't help you".

Anyways, +1.

May 17, 2011 12:46 p.m.

insertcleverid says... #6

Hey, play nice. And thanks for the +1!

May 17, 2011 2:56 p.m.

Dreamlocke says... #7

Excellent combination of ideas. Did you consider Dismember ? I like the flexibility of the mana cost pre-sideboard. After game one you can always swap it out for something more exactly suited to what you want to kill.

Anyway, +1 from me, putting you at 20 on this deck. Congrats!

May 17, 2011 5:14 p.m.

JasperTheOtter says... #8

This loop is a win. Best standard deck I've ever seen.

+1'd

May 17, 2011 6:57 p.m.

JasperTheOtter says... #9

This loop is a win. Best standard deck I've ever seen.

+1'd

May 17, 2011 6:57 p.m.

Savage1988 says... #10

Lol, i know the feeling, i did +1 it now :)

Hideous End may serve you better in the SB, true, but i still disagree on card:Geth's Verdict, any other killing spell is better imo, if it'd done 2 damage to the opponent it wouldve suited the deck much better. i'd replace it with 1 Go for the Throat and 3x Dismember .

May 17, 2011 7:22 p.m.

rckclimber777 says... #11

wow. I love the concept. I'll look more into the deck when I have time, but Brilliant. +1

May 17, 2011 7:41 p.m.

I'm struggling with card:Geth's Verdict since it isn't as efficient as I'd like. The best argument for it instead of Hideous End or Dismember or one of my favs Consuming Vapors is the mana curve, which is just about perfect right now. Making my opponant sac something on turn 2 feels pretty good, but its not about feeling good, is it?

Its all about doing 2 damage to my opponant each turn as cheaply as possible.

I'm also considering putting the two Kalastria Highborn s from my sideboard in MB, giving me a better chance of getting a smooth steady stream of damage across. (I would have more of an option to sac my own dudes that way.) The extra vamps in the sideboard are mostly for testing purposes anyway. They'll might come out to a degree before I go to a tourny. Maybe that will give me the curve I need, but so far testing has gone well with 16. Hmmm...

May 17, 2011 11:28 p.m.

kuruno says... #13

-5 swamp +4 Creeping Tar Pit + island -4 Vampire Nighthawk + 4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor but that is pretty expensive

May 18, 2011 3:34 a.m.

kuruno says... #14

sorry I forgot: +1

May 18, 2011 3:39 a.m.

zandl says... #15

At first, I scoffed at the blue suggestion, but it may actually help you.

Think about it. Even without Jace 2.0, you can still get Halimar Depths , Preordain , Foresee /card:Jace's Ingenuity, and Jace Beleren to help you dig down and find the two cards you need. You could even employ Thrummingbird for more proliferation for Bloodchief Ascension and Jace Beleren , should you decide to use him.

A good strategy I enjoy with Jace Beleren in a proliferate deck is using +2 right as he comes out to give you some breathing room, then spamming his -1 until he's gone, refreshing his loyalty each turn.

And if you're proliferating, you could warrant using card:Tezzeret's Gambit without having to pay life. And blue also gives you the ability to use counters, which (in the SB) could save you. Vapor Snag is also a possibility.

Just some thoughtful suggestions.

May 18, 2011 10:59 a.m.

truble says... #16

i thought it said new phyrexian sex

May 18, 2011 10:23 p.m.

jaxxs21 says... #17

i was looking over this deck and i like it a lot. but i was curious, is the Phyrexian Obliterator in there just because its a good card? it doesnt seem to fit the mold to me. I know that as soon as it hits the battlefield it has to be dealt with. But i was looking at Blistergrub and thought it would be perfect for this type of deck. its one less to cast and activates the bloodchief either due to swampwalk or used as a blocker. maybe in place of the Gatekeeper of Malakir my suggestion would be add four Blistergrub and maybe side two Gatekeeper of Malakir . I dunno, just a suggestion

May 19, 2011 1:27 p.m.

Blistergrub? That is a very, very very good idea.

I have to think on that for a minute, buecase Gatekeeper has been so key for me. Also, I'm considering taking out card:Geth's Verdict for something else, so that's another option there.

Thanks

May 19, 2011 1:46 p.m.

@Dreamlocke ok first is your name a reference to Lost?

2nd, I like Dismember but strangely I don't have any yet so I haven't been able to playtest it live. I like its versitility but I dunno yet.

Also, kuruno and zandl Sorry I'm not going blue. I know there's good cards there but that's just not the deck I want to build. card:Tezzeret's Gambit is always an option but I don't think its as good as using Sign in Blood on an opponant to get that last counter on Bloodchief Ascension .

May 19, 2011 2:17 p.m.

jaxx21 you have a point as well about Phyrexian Obliterator . He is in the deck as my secondary win-con if my loop gets disrupted. And yes, he is very good.

Thing is, I never see any enchant hate in my meta, so I find it very unlikely that anyone will be able to do anything about my primary win-con, except for MBC mirror matches with IoK, Duress and Surgical Extraction .

So I SB'd him. Even tho that hurt.

I'm not as pleaed with the mana curver, but its not as bad as I had feared. I really have to watch out for cards with more than 3 CMC, since I tend to get Dark Tutelage in most games.

What do you guys think of the new MB?

May 19, 2011 2:35 p.m.

Savage1988 says... #21

@insert:

it's very unlikely that anyone disturbs your enchantment... when you get it in the game. it's still only 4 out of 60, which is not a whole lot. also: iok and duress are played in a lot more decks than just mbc. a secondary wincon is a must ahve imo.

May 19, 2011 3:14 p.m.

I totally agree that a secondary win con (or more) is needed in each deck.

I've only had a chance to do matches against MBC and B/R battlecry but In my limited experience with this deck the most likely occurance is I win with the combo. The next most frequent outcome is I win with combat damage. The last outcome is I lose. The only time Phyrexian Obliterator has only ever made an impact in 1 game...when he killed me with Dark Tutelage .

But I haven't put anything in stone yet.

May 19, 2011 5:43 p.m.

smp says... #23

If you want to avoid Surgical Extraction then add Mental Misstep .

May 19, 2011 8:17 p.m.

If I could find any. All the stores around here are sold out every day and haven't pulled one yet. I would LOVE to put that in. I could Mental Misstep their Surgical Extraction then Surgical Extraction their Surgical Extraction .

May 19, 2011 10:07 p.m.

cxcharlie says... #25

Add marsh flats, thins out your deck. Look at your mana curve, do you really need 22 lands? I suggest 20.

May 19, 2011 11:15 p.m.

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