New player, need help deck

Standard* Vertraven

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Vertraven says... #1

Please insert your help commenting here!

September 19, 2014 9 p.m.

CaptainCaveman says... #2

What kind of budget you looking at ? If you want to go mono black which i would recommend a single color to a new player. It is a lot easier to mana fix. As far as what you have here it is the beginnings of maybe a black devotion deck.

Some recommendations , if you are looking for a 1 cast creature like Pharika's Chosen than maybe Ruthless Ripper , gives you the morph option at least.

Nighthowler seems at odds with Whip of Erebos , again if going devotion Gray Merchant of Asphodel .

Returned Centaur for what? the Nighthowler ? i suppose but there are better self mill decks out there that you can just look up , like G/B Constellation. I would get rid of them .

Bile Blight over Pharika's Cure or in conjunction. AND most importantly more land. Nineteen is not enough with all the 2 black stuff you have. If you make a single change that should be it at the very least. Up your lands to maybe like 21 with maybe 2 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx thrown in.

Good luck and have fun.

September 19, 2014 9:12 p.m.

Vertraven says... #3

Thanks CaptainCaveman, i just arranged like you said. I still don't have a clue about the kind of budget i'm looking for, the devotion seems nice but i'm looking for something more aggresive...

September 19, 2014 9:24 p.m.

Vertraven says... #4

Comment here to help!!

September 20, 2014 10:27 a.m.

JetUppercut says... #5

I'd ditch the enchantments and you could replace Boon of Erebos with Molting Snakeskin and work on making that creature base more Enchantment Oriented.

Grim Guardian , Spiteful Returned , Fate Unraveler , Brain Maggot . All great cards that trigger Doomwake Giant. Agent of Erebos isn't bad, but he's easily removed in standard. Xathrid Slyblade fills the same niche but has hexproof.

You could safely mainboard something like Drown in Sorrow , putting Bile Blight in your sideboard for token spamming decks. Since Drown in Sorrow will hit morph creatures, all the tokens that Bile Blight hits and kill everything else your opponent has that you don't like.

Sign in Blood or Read the Bones never hurt.

Hero's Downfall is reliable removal. Though a bit expensive.

Possibly. And I mean very possibly. Just 1 or 2 copies of Caustic Tar to put your opponent on a clock without having to attack with your creatures.

September 20, 2014 10:53 a.m.

Vertraven says... #6

Thanks JetUppercut i will be looking for those cards and doing the changes needed.

September 20, 2014 11:05 a.m.

nleming17 says... #7

alright, well i personally run a mono-black aggro Mono-Black Aggro. Building a deck is mainly about how you like to play. I prefer to play fast, and i also like to play powerful. If you like to get things out and put an end to them before they know it, then take a look at my deck. I've put quite a bit of time into research for it and i would be honored to have someone in some other place be running it also. Hoped this helped, and good luck

September 20, 2014 11:25 a.m.

Snorlax3D says... #8

Cruel Sadist , and Returned Centaur are just too weak. I would personally replace them with Gnarled Scarhide , Pain Seer , and Mogis's Marauder as nice alternatives that are still in a decent price range. Almost every deck needs card draw and removal in some way. Since you completely lack card draw I would advice you to remove Nightmarish End since it would be too weak if your deck isn't based on card advantage and instead put in card draw or more removal. Bile Blight and Hero's Downfall are great pieces of removal while Read the Bones and Sign in Blood are good choices when it comes to card draw.

Im not sure if this is supposed to be devotion, aggro, or something else, but if you want to build devotion you might want to add more Gray Merchant of Asphodel and if you build aggro you might want to cut Gray Merchant of Asphodel completely and add more cards like Gnarled Scarhide and Master of the Feast .

Hope you appreciate some of this advice and good luck with the deck!

September 22, 2014 1:48 p.m.

Frytrix99 says... #9

Agent of the Fates is a good card, but if you can't trigger the Heroic, it's not that effective. Same for Doomwake Giant . If you don't have much enchantment to play in the same turn.. it's not the best card. When you play black, you want to play removal spell like Hero's Downfall and Thoughtseize (but if you don't have money, there's other options like : Despise , Murderous Cut and Silence the Believers can be good) (Drown in Sorrow is not that good cause you have a lot of creatures that can die by it).

Also, if you play many removal, you can play more cards with the new mechanic Delve like Sultai Scavenger that can only cost you like 3 with 3 exiled cards (and it give 2 devotions). If you want to give some evasion to your creatures, Eternal Thirst is a good option (especially with removal spell).

Herald of Torment is another good creature that give you 2 devotions and a good early presence.

I hope that's help you. I know that some of these card are not cheap, but you want a standard competitive deck..

Goodluck at FNM :)

September 23, 2014 1:30 p.m.

Asher18 says... #10

also, as a higher level towards control, Ulcerate , Indulgent Tormentor , Liliana Vess , and maybe even Dictate of Erebos

September 24, 2014 4:38 p.m.

Ballzanya says... #11

You definitely need four Bloodsoaked Champion in there. Take out all copies of Doomwake Giant , and Ordeal of Erebos . Move all the Boon of Erebos , Pharika's Cure , and Molting Snakeskin to the sideboard. Getting at least two Hero's Downfall will be to your advantage as well.

September 25, 2014 2:53 p.m.

EdCote says... #12

If you want to play mono black in the new standard, I think the way to go is a straight up aggro deck. Look at all the efficient creatures at each CMC. Run more 1 drops, slightly fewer 2 drops, slightly fewer 3 drops, and some 4 drops. Maybe some 5 drops too. Indulgent Tormentor is worth a look and you might still get some mileage out of 2x Gray Merchant.

Run 4 copies of your best creatures to increase consistency. Keep Molting Snakeskin. It's great with deathtouch, especially the Agent, who is worth it if you trigger heroic even once per game. Get 4x Spiteful Returned . It will be a headache for your opponent and you can bestow it to trigger heroic or make a flyer bigger. I second the 4x Bloodsoaked Champion . That card is bonkers.

Since you're attacking often, take advantage of Raid. Mardu Skullhunter makes them discard and then they have to kill it somehow, so you might get a 2 for 1 card advantage. Bellowing Saddlebrute is a big fattie who won't die to Stoke the Flames .

One of your 4 drops should be Fate Unraveler . I think that card is totally underrated. 3/4 for 4 isn't that bad for black. Maybe for green, but not black. Thing is, she gets you free damage every turn even in a stalemate and can turn Sign in Blood into a surprise kill. Most opponents won't see that coming but you can deal 4 to them with it and maybe finish them off. (Usually of course you'll use Sign to draw more cards and keep yourself from running out of gas.)

September 27, 2014 12:51 p.m.

nleming17 says... #13

Mogis's Marauder is a must

September 27, 2014 3:47 p.m.

xGhostx says... #14

Welcome to Magic and to the Tappedout Community!

Prepare to have large portions of your time consumed :)

My personal thoughts would be to drop the 2x Pharika's Cure from the MainBoard as well as the 2x Fate Unraveler

I would then increase to 4x Ruthless Ripper and 4x Gray Merchant of Asphodel as he is just way to good to not be a 4of in black devotion :)

October 4, 2014 12:47 p.m.

spiegel421 says... #15

I'd recommend narrowing down your sideboard a little bit to include duplicates of a few cards, not just one of many. I'm fairly new to this myself, but one thing I've learned is that a well-purposed deck scarcely runs less than two of a card, barring consideration of certain formats like singleton and certain constraints like budget.

October 5, 2014 12:28 p.m.

jetalmadge says... #16

the deck looks pretty good i think you could use Master of the Feast also murderous cut is jsut to expensive if you can get more heros downfall to replace murderous cuta note to spiegel there are actually quite a few decks that run one of cards mainly walker decks and tutor decks or green decks that just use genesis hydra chord of calling and see unwritten to just go through the deck and pick what they want

October 6, 2014 12:04 p.m.

xGhostx says... #17

I disagree with Murderous Cut I think it is very solid removal with the Delve ability, its essentially spot removal for 1 B

October 6, 2014 12:51 p.m.

ToxicZer0 says... #18

I would replace Pain Seer with Grim Haruspex . You still get card advantage from him, but you don't have to take any unnecessary damage. Plus you're running 24 creatures, so it's safe to assume that they're eventually gonna die and get you some card draw. Pain Seer is too slow to play efficiently, you won't see any payoff until 2 turns after you cast him, and you have to untap him for the ability to do work.

October 10, 2014 8:46 p.m.

Vertraven says... #19

ToxicZer0 Thanks, nice tip bro!

October 10, 2014 11:34 p.m.

ToxicZer0 says... #20

No problem, the only other thing I can think of is the lack of targeting spells for Agent of the Fates heroic ability. You'd probably be better off running Master of the Feast or Herald of Torment instead. They'll do more damage for you since they have evasion, and you dont need to worry about targeting them with anything.

October 11, 2014 2:10 a.m.

Vertraven says... #21

ToxicZer0 I cant agree more with Master of the Feast . Looks good.

October 11, 2014 2:13 p.m.

lordkilljoy says... #22

I think you should play 4 Bloodsoaked Champion . That is one of the best cards in standard. A 2/1 for one mana is already really good. When you give it the ability to be played from the graveyard, it's just ridiculous.

Also I think Herald of Torment is the better choice over Master of the Feast . Since you are the beat down deck, the life you lose really isn't going to matter. If the other person is in a position where they can attack you then you are losing anyway. Giving your opponent an extra card each turn is really bad for you though. Keep in mind they also built a deck meant to withstand anything so if you give them more cards, you increase their chances of finding a way to beat you.

October 15, 2014 10:34 a.m.

rolypolyguy says... #23

i would say Thoughtseize instead of Despise . but thats just me

October 20, 2014 8:26 p.m.
October 22, 2014 6:37 p.m.

mako16 says... #25

move erebos to side board and put in Squelching Leeches. good for devotion and can get huge

October 22, 2014 6:54 p.m.

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