Wish i could edit my previous comment - I missed that you had Deserted Temple in the list.

Savaaage I will better explain your comments after work just wanted to reply so you don't think I'm ignoring you

Savaaage

I think that we could definitely put Wasteland and Stripmine in over 2 Swamps and not break tempo. As for Geier Reach Sanitarium, I think I'll try it out. I just don't like the cost. But we should have enough mana by then to not care. I excluded Bog because of my meta but it's really a needed card against quite a few decks.

I actually use to run Massacre Wurm over Thoughtseize and do trade it out sometimes. I like to play this deck against some of my LGS' competitive decks. MC Wurm is great against non competive decks though.

Same principle with Hero's Downfall I run that against certain metas. I don't actually see many Planeswalkers so it stays in the sideboard more often than not. Mimic Vat is a card I just very got around to putting in. I just can very find a got slot for it. I want to run it though.

Bitterblossom again is a card that comes in and out, mainly in when I'm playing spellslingers or blue control.

Anything I might have missed or you have more questions about let me know. I check this about every 2 days and I'll respond for sure!

I've been thinking about possibly cutting Extraplanar Lens. Card is a huge trap, sets you back when it comes into play, and sets you back when it gets destroyed. I like the card in theory but in actually I don't see it lasting long on a fairly competitive table.

I'm also thinking Cavern of Souls would be a viable addition to protect Chainer and Xiahou Dun both are human.

In my previous post I made a typo - I meant replacing Thoughtseize for Phyrexian Arena.

High Market another source of sac outlet

Savaaage I could see replacing lens with cavern. That might be a good trade off. Lens does get targeted a bit more than I would like but I never get set back a lot.

What about replacing lens for Jet Medallion and going down to 38 lands but with Caverns?

Posting on this site on mobile is a travesty. Lens for Jet medallion and Caverns as the 38th land. I like the ramp lens gives but just cutting it for Caverns is a fair set back. I'm about to be at work and will spend some hours theorizing. Hopefully we can make a sadistic cutthroat deck :3.

Liliana of the Veil is very juicy here.

Sol Ring for Extraplanar Lens could be a possibility - i'm surprised you're not running ring in your current build. I also want to test Extraplanar Lens in actual play - maybe I'm overthinking the drawbacks or when it gets destroyed, something to see only with experience.

Sunstone in mono black? Awesome! Why no Scrying Sheets? Hits 25% of your list.

Perhaps Fleshwrither?

+1 from me. Good looking pile.

SufferFromEDHD

Thank you! Scrying Sheets is being tested right now actually and Fleshwrither is looking cool I'll be trying that out! Sunstone is amazing! I never attack with the deck so it gives me that extra buffering from damage if needed

Death Cloud

Life's Finale

Smokestack

Possessed Portal

Disciple of Bolas

Disciple of Griselbrand

Skullclamp

Have you considered running Deathgrip?

A lot of green creatures in EDH, and a lot of very valuable, useful ETB / LTB abilities to be had

illumfollyDisciple of Griseband is forSure finding a slot, seemed to have passed over that. Death Cloud also seems like a good addition or sideboard card. As for the others I've ran them and either found them too slow or as a dead card in my hand.Death grip will be going into the side board probably taking the slot from thoughtsieze. Thank you for the upvote/comments!

No problemo duderino.

I know this is an expensive card irl, but get a Chains of Mephistopheles of course

Also please get a Suffer the Past in here right away

illumfollyWell we are in luck as I have both of those. You really think Suffer the Past is better then Crypt Incursion. That's the card that replaced it.

Yes, it's 100% better. It hits non-creatures.

You should probably run them both, as this is a primer, and they are both very good with ample mill.

Or better yet, cut them both and run Withered Wretch instead. I understand that Life-Gain is important... but how important...?

illumfollyWell there's a card I havnt come across. That's going in for sure over Crypt Incursion!

Nice build! Have you considered Black Market? It can power out multiple nightmares after a few turns.

I went in a very different direction w/ my Chainer build:

WHOOAA Black Chainy, BAMBA LAM

Any updates from the new sets?

VesuvanDoppelbanger I toy around with Black Market a lot actually. That's a meta call for me really. It is an all-star against Ghave or Edric that's for sure

Hipparchos sorry I'm having a tough time getting time to sit down and write the updates. I'll be taking time out this week I promise you to get the new cards I've been running into the primer! Spoiler Revel in Riches is amazing!

Bulletproofcats: Don't get in a tizz! :) I've been looking forward to this.