No Friends? No Problem (Budget Infect\Wither)

Modern SKUFFLEZ

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kon115 says... #2

does hand of the preaetors boost creature with wither too?

June 10, 2017 2:24 p.m.

MohenjoDaro says... #3

Doesn't look like a fast infect deck, but it does look fun :)

You might want to make a side board for when you run into Melira, Sylvok Outcast

I think Swarmyard could also be a solid friendship destroyer with this deck if you don't mind the price

June 11, 2017 11:17 p.m.

SKUFFLEZ says... #4

@kon115 Hand of the Praetors doesn't boost wither creatures; although his main attraction is dealing a poison counter to target opponent when you cast an infect creature.

$MohenjoDaro Glad you at least think it's fun, even though it's a slower version of infect. I've added a point on dealing with Melira, Sylvok Outcast and added Swarmyard to the Maybeboard. Thanks!

June 12, 2017 9:01 a.m.

ellie-is says... #5

This is nice, but you should probably edit the title - as it's no longer $20. Blowfly Infestation's price went up by a lot and I think that's what made the price rise of the deck rise so much.

June 25, 2017 8:42 a.m.

ellie-is says... #6

And Crumbling Ashes as well. Both more than doubled in price after Amonkhet it seems.

June 25, 2017 8:43 a.m.

DJMintEFresh says... #7

Awesome deck! The only thing I would change is take out one of the 4x three-drop creatures and replace it with 4x Ichorclaw Myr. The ONLY two-drop creature you currently have is Plague Stinger. Waiting until turn three to play a creature is much too slow.

June 25, 2017 12:01 p.m.

SKUFFLEZ says... #8

@ellie-is thanks for pointing the price increase out; I've updated various areas.

@DJMintEFresh The change you've suggested is completely understandable, especially if you play in a meta of well constructed decks (or at the very least fast). As stated in the description, this is meant to be a foundation to build from and morph to YOUR meta (Ichorclaw Myr has been in the maybeboard for awhile). As a budget deck, I expect most users will be playing in a slower\casual meta where speed isn't 100% necessary. If anything, I'd say the average casual\budget group tends to frown against decks that are focused on fast\consistent 3-6 turn wins (IE: "they're not fun to play against").

Thanks for your comments!

June 25, 2017 2:32 p.m.

RUST-O says... #9

I have always been a fan of Grotesque Mutation. Underrated pump spell in mono black. And as budget as it gets.

Seems like if could do some work here.

Cool deck. +1

June 26, 2017 8:29 a.m.

Lightheart says... #10

I would definitely consider adding Nest of Scarabs to this deck. You're already sprinkling the -1/-1 counters everywhere, why not get more free things from them.

September 26, 2017 5:28 p.m.

AJ@THE@MAN says... #11

How about Nest of Scarabs to choked up a the board.

October 11, 2017 10:54 a.m.

willis1234 says... #12

Volt Charge could be a nice addition.

October 16, 2017 10:09 a.m.

DjNotturn0 says... #13

I N V A D E T H E C O N N S C I O U SD E S T R O Y T H E W E A K

Also rad deck dude

December 3, 2017 8:39 p.m.

SKUFFLEZ says... #14

@AJ@THE@MAN Suggestion added to the maybe board.

@willis1234 Volt Charge could work if someone was willing to run mountains, but considering everything else requires swamps it seems counter-intuitive to run this card.

@DjNotturn0 Conscious* :)

@SoakingDrop52 I agree Phyrexian Crusader is strong, but it's also been in the maybe board since day 1 (for those willing to break budget)!

Thanks again to everyone for taking the time to comment!

December 5, 2017 10:05 a.m.

lukas96 says... #15

you should cut Midnight Banshee and Kulrath Knight you only play 20 lands so getting to 5 or 6 mana is really difficult.

February 4, 2018 7:01 p.m.

So if I wanted to add 4x Ichorclaw Myr, 4x Phyrexian Crusader, 1x Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon and 1x Black Sun's Zenith. What cards would be the best option to switch out?

February 15, 2018 1:05 p.m.

ShadowFire1 says... #17

Seems like a good deck but i'm curious, would [card:Contagion Engine] work, with 20 swamp as your only source of mana, i'm not sure if that would be a good support card to add

March 9, 2018 3:21 a.m.

ShadowFire1 says... #18

I meant to put Contagion Engine, it seems really useful in a deck like this but would 20 swamp be enough for the cost?

March 9, 2018 3:53 a.m.

SKUFFLEZ says... #19

Sorry about the rather late reply, but here it goes!

@lukas96 I just want to point out that the Midnight Banshee + Kulrath Knight lock out combo is one of the win cons in this deck; assuming you're facing non-black decks. Also this deck is meant to be a foundation to build off of, you make the changes you believe are required for your playgroup; even if that means messing with the mana base!

@DemonicExecuter This question is always hard, and tends to be heavily affected by your playgroup. If your playgroup doesn't abuse flying creatures, you could probably get away with replacing 2-4x Plague Stinger for 2-4x Ichorclaw Myr; otherwise I wouldn't bother with Ichorclaw Myr. On the other side, replacing the 4x Septic Rats for 4x Phyrexian Crusader should be a safe bet in all situations (same CMC, same stats, better effects). Finding the proper card to replace with Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon is kind of tricky, but I'd say 1x Kulrath Knight. I honestly would say as awesome as it sounds, a 2BB Black Sun's Zenith would eliminate 14 out of the 22 creatures in this deck (if un-buffed by Hand of the Praetors); not to say it couldn't work, but you'd have to build with it in mind.

@ShadowFire1 this question really boils down to Contagion Engine vs Contagion Clasp - I'd say the clasp wins out simply because it's faster and doesn't have the potential of clogging your hand as much in the early stages; its a 2 mana Scar that will later be used to proliferate. The 4 extra mana on the engine changes the targeted -1/-1 to apply to all of a target player's creatures, which just feels more clunky than helpful imo.

March 12, 2018 6:03 p.m.

Awesome! Thanks for the help and great deck

March 12, 2018 6:16 p.m.

lukas96 says... #21

SKUFFLEZ If its one of the decks win cons to cast each one of a 5 and a 6 drop with a total of 20 mana sources which in addition only works if your opponent doesnt have black thats a terrible win con.You could kill you opponent much faster and make the deck way more consistent without those

Playing 20 lands and 6 drops that arent even good at all is not good in general. That doesnt have to do anything with one given playgroup its just a fact

March 12, 2018 9:21 p.m.

SKUFFLEZ says... #22

@lukas96 I feel like you've misconstrued one of the win cons as the only win con; which just isn't true. Sure Midnight Banshee only applies to non-black creatures, but this is meant to be a budget casual idea to build off of, not a competitive net-deck to crush the competition.

There's also a part of me that feels you're analyzing this deck under the light of it being used in a 1v1 format, rather than multiplayer which tends to play at a slower pace (example: 4-6 player FFA).

I agree on the basis that there are likely better options for cards such as Midnight Banshee, that could fill the same role; but this applies to most if not all decks.

Thanks for taking the time to comment back-to-back though!

March 13, 2018 12:23 p.m. Edited.

lukas96 says... #23

thanks for not being salty i feel like a lot of people get very angry if you critizise their decks in such a harsh way as i did with yours.

Modern is a 1vs1 format so if something is intendet to be work or to be played in an FFA format you should right that in the description i guess because banshee is of course better the more opponents you have.

I feel that you are misunderstanding the key point and the reasoning why i argue against the cards. The problem is that you are only running 20 lands which doesnt let you cast 5-6 drops reliable even 3 or 4 cant alsways be casted with 20 lands but 5-6 cost spells will more likely be dead hand card for the rest of the game than doing anything benificial for you during a game. Thats the reason why you should cut them and not anything they do on the battlefield or not

March 13, 2018 2:40 p.m.

GodRedSands says... #24

SKUFFLEZ

This deck is simply disgusting....

AND I LOVE IT!

I've had my fair share of havoc and disruption with a mono-green instant-win infect deck featuring a lot of low cost creature buff instants and a green elf by the name of Glistener Elf, and might I say, I love this deck you've made. Budget (Just like any other decks I've made, whether its on paper on on TappedOut) and efficient! I would have been worried that the high-costing cards would be of an issue, but clearly this deck is just too damn much for your opponents for that to be an issue.

Well done! I give you my +1 and congratz!

July 16, 2018 1:50 p.m.

SKUFFLEZ says... #25

@GodRedSands

I am glad you enjoy the deck and thank you for the kind words :)

Indeed the high-cost cards have been pointed out as a possible weak point in the build, but it tends to be a non-issue; and it's also meant to be a foundation to build your own ideas!

July 16, 2018 3:15 p.m.

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