Not even death can save you from me
Commander / EDH*
SCORE: 15 | 26 COMMENTS | 4317 VIEWS | IN 4 FOLDERS
Liliana of the Veil is pretty weak in EDH.
Consider Mortal Combat as a win-con and Krosan Grip as removal.
+1, check out my Karador deck, Karador, ETB Chieftan for ideas if you want. I do put expensive cards in my deck, though.
February 14, 2013 10:02 p.m.
Venator101 says... #3
Seen as your already using Sun Titan , why not run a full FUNTITAN package for recursion? Namely; Necromancy and Animate Dead . Both of these allow reanimation from any Graveyard as well as being able to be brought back with the titan. Especially useful for Necromancy as it can be used at instant speed. Both are fairly cheap to get hold of.
Another good card for consideration (and one that I use in my ETB Effect, The Deck (Karador EDH)) is Skullclamp . It can provide good card advantage if sweepers are a big thing in your meta. But even so, just clamp it onto a little guy and watch the cards come rolling in.
You might also want to consider some land fetch creatures. Farhaven Elf and Yavimaya Granger both come to mind. Yavimaya Elder is also pretty decent.
You may also want a way to deal with indestructible creatures. card:Black Sun's Zenith, Path to Exile and Oblation are all fairly useful. Additionally, in these colours you can run both Mortify and Putrefy which with their multiple modes have saved my ass more times than I can remember.
Finally, I'd really take a look at Acidic Slime and Disciple of Bolas . Theyre both awesome in a Birthing Pod chain. Sylvan Primordial and Sepulchral Primordial are also really good.
Hope this helps!
February 19, 2013 5:36 a.m.
GoatBong419 says... #4
i don't know if an average of $10 is too expensive, but for G/B gravestrat i suggest Lord of Extinction. he gets retarded huge in multiplayer.
March 6, 2013 12:45 p.m.
Bobgalarneau says... #6
You know Hermit Druid is not usualy used for ramp but for massive mill right? Take out a lot of basic lands and try to activate him ( with 5-10 basic). I personaly love him in my karador deck. Other than that, the deck looks real fine. If you keep high in basic lands, add Boundless Realms for huge lategame purge of your library.
I would take out Primeval Light and Paraselene. Too specific not enough polivalent.
Check my deck karador, power reanimator in your face for other idea of ETB creatures
March 15, 2013 11:47 p.m.
He grabs land and in the process mills cards, a win win. I'll take a look at your deck, thanks.
March 16, 2013 12:18 a.m.
shoeface33 says... #8
looks seriously nasty :)If you wanna work on shutting down your opponents, Sisters of Stone Death is really nasty as you can effectivley steal an opponents creature for 6 mana. Or just exile it for 3 really which can be really really annoying.
Favourite card of the moment (which is /seriously/ underrated) is Dark Impostor. This guy is amazing!! 6 mana and just exile a creature, so so good. Provides answers to Avacyn, Angel of Hope, anythiing with Darksteel Plate attached. Plus he makes a target which needs to be dealt with or there can be serious problems for your opponents. Can help to keep your big stuff alive :) +1
March 16, 2013 7:33 a.m.
Thanks Shoeface, I'll definitely look into adding Sisters in there.
March 16, 2013 4:06 p.m.
im gonna plus one this simply cuz im a huge d2 fan. playing it for 7 yrs, have that quote tatted on me, and this deck is actually pretty awesome :)
March 16, 2013 4:08 p.m.
Thanks for the upvote Treevore, I have very fond memories of Diablo 2 as well.
March 16, 2013 4:18 p.m.
your mana base is horrible, and with 9 plains Emeria, The Sky Ruin is useless. its ability would be too hard to use. (i don't mean to sound mean)
if this is a budget deck, what about some guild gates?
March 16, 2013 10:15 p.m.
I'll look at the lands. My theory with Emeria is that because I have quiet a large amount of land grab, it wouldn't be too difficult to get the seven plains needed. Ill consider shifting it out tho, thanks.
March 16, 2013 10:19 p.m.
PriestessKikyo1 says... #16
I agree with kopopoo, and I'm also suprised you didn't include Reanimate, Unburial Rites, or Dread Return. Though I guess lots of your creatures do help out with that! I also noticed that in your last update it seems like you had a lot of good lands in this dec that you took out.. I'm not sure if 31 would be enough plus a lot of them come into play tapped.
Anyway, those things said, your deck got my attention right away- I like it more than any I have seen in a while! :) It's got lots of creatures that I just love. Doomgape might be interesting in here. Or maybe some Grave Pact! Thanks for sharing, +1 from me.
March 19, 2013 7:44 a.m.
PriestessKikyo1 says... #17
The more I look the more I like. This is going in my favorites folder!
March 19, 2013 8 a.m.
Thanks Priestess. The reason a lot of those lands we're taken out is because they cost a large amount of money. And while this inst a budget deck anymore, I do still want to keep the cost within a reasonable range. The reason I'm not running a lot of sorcery revivals is because I want things I can use over and over. I'll look at Grave Pact and Doomgape. Thanks!
March 19, 2013 4:32 p.m.
while Vesuva has its nice ability, i prefer its reprint Thespian's Stage, while at first you notice the (2) cost to activate, but the fact you can Change it's copy without having to bounce your mana base back makes it a better card. not to mention the price tag difference of ~8 bucks. something to consider in your Maybeboard.
i like you Karador deck, for a different route with similar effect check out my version,
March 21, 2013 9:21 p.m.
ResurrectedSage says... #21
I am disappoint. No Triskelion for infinite combo with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
April 3, 2013 3:03 p.m.
Ha, I didn't even realize that combo. I probably wont put it in there tho, one is enough to piss people off.
April 3, 2013 4:57 p.m.
metalevolence says... #23
31 lands? People you play with must be really relaxed about mulligans.
I would definitely drop at least these cards for lands: sisters of stone death, sorin lord of innistrad.
Other cards that seem lackluster: Teysa, marshal's anthem, reya dawnbringer, savra, ulamog's crusher
I think circle of despair is worse than Martyr's Cause .
Is there a reason you have no mana acceleration like Cultivate or Farhaven Elf ?
April 3, 2013 5:16 p.m.
I had mana acceleration at one point, but because I switched to a large amount of nonbasic lands their value went down in the deck. I do like Martyr's Cause . I threw Sorin, Lord of Innistrad in because I got him from the duel deck, and I also think is ult is a good fit for the deck.
Why would you remove Teysa, Orzhov Scion and Sisters of Stone Death ? Teysa is a sac outlet that lets me remove problem creatures from the game. And Sisters allows me to remove a creature for 3 mana, then if I really need to, bring it back on my side.
I agree that Marshal's Anthem isn't that great and that Savra, Queen of the Golgari is lackluster. However, I disagree that Reya Dawnbringer and Ulamog's Crusher are lackluster
Overall, I do agree that I need to put more mana in the deck.
Thanks for your feedback!
April 3, 2013 6:52 p.m.
metalevolence says... #25
For teysa, there are simply not a lot of white creatures in the deck.
Sisters, I think, is just an awful card, You spend eight mana for a big thing with no immediate value. If it matters, your opponents get a turn to deal with it. Then if you manage to untap with it, you have to spend even more mana on its ability, and the ability only works on untapped creatures. It's just too clumsy of a card.
Reya and crusher have a similar problem in that they are massively expensive, have to make it to your next turn to do anything, and don't give you any value in the face of removal. But they are not as bad as sisters IMO.
If it was my deck I'd cut all of them- sorin, teysa, sisters, anthem, reya and crusher- and put in six lands. But I guess the beauty of the format is to each is his own :P
I'm happy if you got anything from my comments. If you feel like it, you should check out some of my decks. I have a karador list too.
Aelorith2117 says... #1
Blood Pet , card:Ashnod's Altar, Viridian Emissary , Deathrite Shaman , Llanowar Dead , and card:Avacyn's Pilgrim could all help you ramp to your commander!
February 14, 2013 6:24 p.m.