Nothing Wasted

Modern* AlphaAuthority

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AlphaAuthority says... #1

Archive Trap , well I think its just like you said first. When used, it generates a lot of important targets for my Surgical Extraction and Extirpate . Which really isn't that bad. And usually theres a lot of fetch lands in modern. Not sure if it would be a mainboard card though, but as a sideboard might not be that bad casey :-)

August 9, 2014 4:27 a.m.

addaff says... #2

Here is my brew for waste not


Waste Not, Raven Playtest

Modern addaff

SCORE: 4 | 3 COMMENTS | 246 VIEWS

+1

Rune Snag > Mana Leak

August 9, 2014 12:29 p.m.

ignorante says... #3

I have played mtg 10 years ago, so i dont know card name to suggest, but i strongly reccomend some graveyard-hate cards in your sideboard. Liliana's Caress is better than Waste Not in my opinion. Recoil (i dunnow if still legal) may be usefull against enchantment cards ( black has nothing against enchantment ) or against anything else.if still legal, Daze is great to counter in the first turn.

August 11, 2014 6 a.m.

AlphaAuthority says... #4

Thanks for the suggestions ignorante, although non of the cards are legal :-) Liliana's Caress is not bad, but doesn't even come close to fit in in this deck I'm afraid. I will look into the sideboard, but I will need my mainboard complete first :)

August 11, 2014 6:57 a.m.

uniplatiperson says... #5

Liliana's Caress Liliana of the Veil and Rotting Rats I would make it mono black with other cards like Bloodghast

August 12, 2014 7:55 p.m.

AlphaAuthority says... #6

uniplatiperson the point is not to make it mono black though :-)

August 12, 2014 8:13 p.m.

uniplatiperson says... #7

how about Whispering Madness then?

August 12, 2014 8:18 p.m.

AlphaAuthority says... #8

uniplatiperson, Whispering Madness doesn't really fit in with the combo, and it's a bit to high on the curve to have any value in modern. But what do you suggest I would take out for it..

August 13, 2014 10:57 a.m.

uniplatiperson says... #9

what combo?

August 13, 2014 12:19 p.m.

Not combo, deck type/idea, sorry :-) ..

August 13, 2014 2:54 p.m.

Arne_Treholt says... #11

This is exactly what I think Waste Not was made for. Provides solid advantage for discard to Surgical Extraction /Extirpate combo and some reeeeeeally nice blue support makes this deck look like a lot of fun. If I had Waste Not I would have a similar build only a little more... budget. haha I even tried to +1 again, well done sir.

August 13, 2014 3:12 p.m.

why do you have Surgical Extraction an Extirpate ?

August 13, 2014 5:18 p.m.

never mind I get it

August 13, 2014 5:18 p.m.

Saljen says... #14

In a control deck, you want 24-25 lands. I would also recommend 4x Raven's Crime . I say this because it turns all of your extra land draws into potential discard, meaning you'll never have dead draws. It's one of the best discard cards in both Modern and Legacy. Surgical Extraction and Extirpate are side-board cards, I would replace them with 4x Raven's Crime and 4x Funeral Charm (by dropping 2 of your non-snapcaster creatures as well). Funeral Charm is good because you can cause them to discard a card right after they draw it if they are top decking. It gives Waste Not extra steam after they've discarded their whole hand. Crucible of Worlds is a fun 1-2 of as well if you decide to start discarding lands.

I'd also run 4x Remand because putting it back into their hand and then making them discard it would be HILARIOUS!

As far as creatures go, I would only run 4x Snapcaster Mage and drop the others, BBBB is hard to cast in a multi-colored deck. I'd try to get a more control oriented win-con like 2x Wurmcoil Engine . It basically requires 3 removal spells to kill, so its crazy hard to deal with once it hits the battlefield. Especially if you can counter some of that removal.

August 19, 2014 12:12 p.m.

Saljen says... #15

Also, Black Sun's Zenith isn't very good. Single target removal is better with discard, because the idea is taht you make them discard their threats instead of letting them play them. Single target removal kills anything that gets through but doesn't require near the mana requirement of a board wipe. Doom Blade , Ultimate Price , etc are good black removal.

August 19, 2014 12:15 p.m.

Saljen, thanks for the feedback mate, appreciate it mate. As a general rule of thumb, you want 2 more land cards for every 0.5 avg. cmc above 2 in a control typed deck without ramp. My land count is more or less perfect. I haven't been mana screwed more than I would like when playing this deck. Extirpate + Surgical Extraction isn't a sideboard choice in this kind of deck. At all.Raven's Crime however is a really good card, but I couldn't think of a situation, where I would have benefited from it, over Thoughtseize or Inquisition of Kozilek . I like the idea of being able to discard at instant speed with Funeral Charm .

Crucible of Worlds would only be worth it, if I ran Raven's Crime , which I would not.

I run 3x Remand and 4x Mana Leak , but I'll take your advice and run it the other way around :-)

Phyrexian Obliterator have never disappointed me, not once. Usually I never hard cast it, without playing a IoK or Thoughtseize the turn before or together with it, to ensure that they would have to topdeck to get rid of it. BBBB isn't hard at all, never been and properly never will be, unless I get super mana screwed, always been able to hard cast it, when I could/would.

Saying Black Sun's Zenith is bad, is just wrong. It's a super effective card, but it wouldn't be a mainboard option, if it wasn't because my local meta is full of hexproff and shroud. So yes, it's just that good!

If I were to make all the changes you suggested, it wouldn't be the original idea of mixing several win-cons together to one big lethal cocktail. It would just be another net deck like everyone's else. I like the idea of mixing both types and not going full control, as no one likes to play against it, and no one likes to be the one everyone don't want to play against :-)

August 19, 2014 12:43 p.m.

Mirabilis says... #20

Nice work AlphaAuthority! Just a qq, would Memory Plunder be an ok replacement for Snapcaster Mage? Been thinking of UB deck with Waste Not as its core as well. But having some budget problems, as well as turning U decks into mill ones (Glimpse the Unthinkable , Grimoire Thief, Nemesis of Reason)

Overall, great concept with a excellent potential to go extreme (full control, but probably less fun) :)

December 30, 2014 3:36 p.m.

Mirabilis, thanks.

Memory Plunder is sideboard material, in my opinion, seeing as you can't have a guaranteed use for it in every match. So if you would play the deck in a budget edition, I wouldn't use it still.

If you want to make a mill deck, Glimpse the Unthinkable + Isochron Scepter works like a clockwork. Hedron Crab is good as well. :-)

January 1, 2015 10:35 a.m.

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