Oloro - Forever young

Commander / EDH kristensen

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Nice man! I made my deck based off the Eternal Bargain as well. It turned out pretty great! If you need some card ideas, look at my deck


Gain life. Lose life. Draw card. Thug life. Playtest

Commander / EDH jaredscottwilson

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August 17, 2014 9:03 p.m.

vishnarg says... #2

Drogskol Reaver is fantastic

August 17, 2014 11:03 p.m.

kristensen says... #3

jaredscottwilson great inspiration, thanks man! Already added a bunch of cards from your deck to my maybeboard.

vishnarg thanks for the suggestions, I will definitely get my hands on that card. Seems pretty insane!

August 18, 2014 5:46 a.m.

jlwalker20 says... #4

Hey buddy - I'm in the process of augmenting the Oloro precon in two directions, myself:1. Lifegain focus2. Artifact focus

I'm basically building two possible decks with one larger pool of cards and will just swap em around as I please. That's how you cut down on cards. If you're interested in seeing either list, I'd be happy to post them.

August 27, 2014 1:08 p.m.

kristensen says... #5

Oi jlwalker20 - would be awesome! I'm focusing more towards lifegain, but I would appreciate both lists. Thanks! :-)

August 27, 2014 1:13 p.m.

jlwalker20 says... #6

Please note that both are very heavily WIP (and I've been doing it from my phone because my new apartment is without a computer or internet for another couple weeks):

Lifegain: A Tale of Oloro the Lazy

Note that all cards on the Maybeboard of this deck are for me to acquire and very well could replace any number of cards in the decklist itself.

Artifaction

This is a very rough draft. I wanted to be able to sub cards in and out of the same deck to play them in two completely different ways. You'll find a little lifelink and lifegain in this, but it's much more big-creature-swingy-over-the-top and Metalcraft/mass artifact enhancement.

August 27, 2014 1:32 p.m.

NinjaBunny01 says... #7

I think you are good on the lifegain part sans maybe Beacon of Immortality , so I think your new consideration may be on card draw. Cards like Sphinx's Revelation , Jace Beleren or Jace, the Mind Sculptor , Consecrated Sphinx , and Arcanis the Omnipotent could help.

If you are looking for more cards (that I didn't mention) you can also take a look at my current list: Oloro, Immortal King of Control

August 27, 2014 2:14 p.m.

kristensen says... #8

jlwalker20 - Thanks for the inspiration! I can see from your maybeboard that we have done a lot of the same thoughts :-) which is nice to know. Guess I'm not totally tumbling around in the dark.

NinjaBunny01 - I already have Beacon of Immortality ;-) but thanks for all the other suggestions. I especially find Consecrated Sphinx interesting! Guess I'll pick one up in the days to come. Any suggestions on which cards to remove/swap?

August 27, 2014 3:27 p.m.

NinjaBunny01 says... #9

If it is just for the Consecrated Sphinx , I would maybe take out Chalice of Life  Flip

August 27, 2014 4:01 p.m.

kristensen says... #10

NinjaBunny01 - It's not necessarily only for Consecrated Sphinx , check my maybeboard. All of those cards are already acquired - perhaps some of them deserves a spot? I know there's many cards, so I totally understand if you don't want to take the time looking at them all :-)

August 27, 2014 4:12 p.m.

jlwalker20 says... #11

kristensen Check this out - this is my buddy's highly synergized version of the precon deck (and where I got most of my Maybeboard): Oloro Lifelink Augment (Jason)

August 27, 2014 4:16 p.m.

UpsetYoMama says... #12

I think that Archangel of Thune deserves a mainboard slot. You have so many triggers going off with lifegain that you creatures will be huge in no time at all.

Wurmcoil Engine is a very powerful card. I would cut Erebos, God of the Dead from the deck. The problem is that if someone slaps something on him like Mind Control , he shuts down your deck strategy. Move Greed from your maybeboard into its place, you're most interested in Erebos's effect, anyways.

Baleful Strix > Tidehollow Strix

Exsanguinate is awesome in any Oloro deck.

Wrath of God > Day of Judgment

I usually consider adding Armageddon to most white decks. This is because if you have a much stronger board presence and cast it, it means that you are way ahead of your opponents. In this deck, you'd also still be gaining tons of life while the game more or less resets.

My initial problem with Oloro is that I tried to shove him into an artifact themed deck. I think that this was because the precon deck tried to go this route somewhat. I found that it was fairly ineffective. He is best in a control shell of some sort. You can still play plenty of creatures, but counterspells are important.

I would add some that are very powerful in EDH, such as Hinder , Spell Crumple , Render Silent , Cryptic Command , and Condescend .

You have a good amount of draw in here, but filtering can also be important, especially towards the beginning of the game. Some players dislike them, but I've found that cantrips like Brainstorm and Gitaxian Probe can be valuable at all stages of the game, and since they replace themselves, don't cripple you late game.

I could go on for a while, but start with some of those suggestions. You remind me that I need to work on my own Oloro deck, the list I have is extremely outdated...

August 27, 2014 5:34 p.m.

jlwalker20 says... #13

Thumbs up to what he said

August 27, 2014 5:41 p.m.

kristensen says... #14

UpsetYoMama - Thanks for your VERY thorough comment. Means a lot. First of all I just want to clear something up; all the cards in the sideboard are yet to be acquired. However, I just bought Archangel of Thune yesterday, so it goes without saying that I'll make room for her. On a different note; all the cards in the maybeboard I already own. Perhaps some of them earns a spot, like Greed for instance. It's a nice card, and would suit the deck perfectly. As for your other suggestions; AWESOME!!! Thank you so much. You're absolutely right, and have some valid points. My contact person as the bank is going to hate me, lol. Magic is an expensive hobby for sure!

jlwalker20 - Thanks for the deck link. The deck is surely more synergized than mine. When I get hold of the new cards I just ordered, I'll definitely look at the deck for construction/synergetic tips.

Cheers guys! You're the best.

August 28, 2014 1:58 a.m.

kristensen says... #15

UpsetYoMama - Sigh, that went a little fast. Sorry for the typos.

I've just bought: Arcanis the Omnipotent , Archangel of Thune , Consecrated Sphinx , Brainstorm , Hinder , Render Silent , Spell Crumple and Wurmcoil Engine . And furthermore, I've bought a bunch of new lands.

I'll let you guys know once the cards arrives, and I've tweaked/modified the deck to my satisfaction.

Cheers

August 28, 2014 5:05 a.m.

jlwalker20 says... #16

Party Rock +1

August 28, 2014 9:27 a.m.

UpsetYoMama says... #17

Awesome! You'll have to let me know when you update the lands and such. Glad I could be of help. If you get the chance, I'd appreciate any comments you have on my Mimeoplasm dredge deck I'm building. I don't have all the cards yet in the maybeboard; it's a work in progress. Here's the link: Pardon My Ooze

August 28, 2014 5:07 p.m.

KaraZorEl says... #18

Test of Endurance is the best card in your deck. You'll need to have a few tutor cards that help you find enchantments. Enlightened Tutor , for example. But if you can't afford that, Diabolic Tutor is just as good.

Don't discount the value of spells such as Griptide when you play against good decks that are always shuffling their libraries. You can probably get Oblation easily enough, as well.

You biggest enemies will be hard-hitting decks that can kill you right out with general damage, and combo decks which can deal a million damage to you in one turn.

August 29, 2014 10:09 a.m.

kristensen says... #19

UpsetYoMama - I'll check it out once I get home. Stay tuned!

KaraZorEl - Thanks for the feedback. I already have a Diabolic Tutor in the deck, but I will take Enlightened Tutor into consideration since it's faster to play. I already own Oblation , perhaps it earns a spot. Hmm. So many possibilities ;) I already have to make space for all the cards in the maybeboard so it's getting kinda hard finding cards to remove. Suggestions?

August 29, 2014 10:45 a.m.

KaraZorEl says... #20

When you reach the point where you don't know what cards you want to remove, all you need to figure out is: which card will help me win the fastest? Which card is a slow roll to victory? Always choose the first over the second, which is why Enlightened Tutor should replace Render Silent. If you want a really good counterspell try Dromar's Charm . It seems to fit your theme pretty well.

August 30, 2014 12:47 a.m.

UpsetYoMama says... #21

That may work once or twice...the problem is, once your playgroup knows part of a combo or piece you run, they're going to target it or whatever searches it up.

I'm not saying that Enlightened Tutor is a bad card. But since you have access to black, they have tutor cards that are more versatile, such as Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor .

I forgot to mention Orim's Chant ...the card is awesome.

August 30, 2014 1:28 a.m.

kristensen says... #22

KaraZorEl and UpsetYoMama - you both have valid points, and I will take them all into consideration. Might make room for Dromar's Charm . Instead of Absorb perhaps? Orim's Chant could potentially replace Render Silent . Vampiric Tutor is kinda expensive, which is the main reason for not having a place atm. I have considered Liliana Vess as a tutor, any thoughts?

Btw, UpsetYoMama - sorry for not getting back to you regarding your Ooze deck. I will check it out now.

August 31, 2014 10:09 a.m.

NinjaBunny01 says... #23

So I have to ask, how budget is this deck? I didn't really give to many suggestions at first because I don't know how much is to much to spend on specific cards, but I guess I will just suggest them now.

Let's start with lands. You have 2 of the 3 painlands. That is pretty good, but we can do better. I would get the W/B pain land to finish the cycle. Then I would add in the 3 shocks (Hallowed Fountain , Watery Grave , Godless Shrine ). After that I would finish your "buddy" land cycle (Isolated Chapel ). Now let's add in another good land Reflecting Pool . That gives you pretty decent mana base, and you should be able to hit your colors pretty well. I would remove the guild gates, Darkslick Shores , your bounce lands, Barren Moor , Jwar Isle Refuge , and Transguild Promenade . Now I would suggest adding in the other 2 vivid lands or remove the one you have.

If you want to just throw budget to the wind, I would suggest adding the ABUR duels (Tundra , Underground Sea , Scrubland ) and some true fetches (Polluted Delta , Marsh Flats , Etc). You don't have to run a large amount, but they will help you further fix your colors (and Khans will make the allied lands more available).

If you want some generally good lands, I would suggest Maze of Ith , Mystifying Maze , Vesuva , and Thespian's Stage .

Now lets move on to regular cards: Sphinx's Revelation , Ob Nixilis, Unshackled , Pact of Negation , Slaughter Pact , Unmake , Austere Command , Merciless Eviction , Liliana Vess , Demonic Tutor , Duplicant , and Solemn Simulacrum are pretty good cards you may want to consider.

If you want some more expensive suggestions, then I would Suggest Cryptic Command , Snapcaster Mage , Force of Will , Karn Liberated , and Jace, the Mind Sculptor .

As for cards to take out, I would say move cards around to see how you like to fell of the deck as you move cards around. That way it will feel more like your own deck, and not like others on the site. I would definitely consider dropping your land count to 38 or 36 as 41 is on the high end, and if you have card draw and tutors you won't need the extra land. And if you are truly having trouble removing things, I will give you one thing I personally don't do. I don't like cards that instantly win me the game, or infinite loops that win me the game.

August 31, 2014 11:49 a.m.

kristensen says... #24

NinjaBunny01 - Thanks for your very thorough comment. I have already made some of the land changes you're suggesting. Still awaiting Isolated Chapel and Reflecting Pool . Also considering Mana Confluence . Do you think Vault of the Archangel could have a place - or is its ability simpy to costly in order to justify it? I've thought about dropping my land count to 38...I'll do it once I receive all my purchased lands.

I already own copies of Liliana Vess and Unmake , and thinking about buying Merciless Eviction and Solemn Simulacrum . Decent cards, that don't cost a bunch.

My max budget is around 250$, so most of the land suggestions are out of the question. Sweet cards though.

September 1, 2014 7:46 a.m.

Metaris says... #25

September 1, 2014 1:45 p.m.

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