Omnath, A Song of Creation and Chaos
Commander / EDH
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Starsky2814 says... #2
rkjunior, At first I wasn’t a fan of adding an eldrazi titan, but Kozilek, Butcher of Truth could be a sweet add for sure.
Jensu08, I’d probably lean more towards adding back Temur Ascendancy if it came down to adding a cheap haste enabler. For now, I want to try out an elemental creature who provides haste, so I can use things like Smokebraider to help with casting cost or to trigger Risen Reef or burn damage if destroyed while Omnath, Locus of Rage is in play. Though the add of an additional haste enabler might not be a permanent inclusion. It’s just in for testing purposes right now. I’m excited to get a real game in on paper this week. That should help a lot with the questionable pieces.
MtgSheepish, those are all great suggestions and seem like a lot of fun. I definitely do like the ideas around them. Could make for a sweet deck if built around the ideas.
I didn’t consider Worldgorger Dragon because I didn’t feel I had enough ETB triggers in the deck to justify a mass flicker. Could be fun with a board full of elementals and Risen Reef. I did consider Realm Razer in the beginning when I decided I wanted to add some sort of form of land hate. Just didn’t make the cut. Though I didn’t even think about flickering him for the landfall triggers or even reset mana with Amulet of Vigor in play. Also, I am a fan of Manabond and it was an option a couple of days ago, when we were replacing Sol Ring. We ended up going with the re-add of Burgeoning instead. Lastly, I unfortunately cut Omnath, Locus of the Roil because he was feeling lackluster in my testing. Of course, when his draw ability is online, it is easily abused and you can gain so much card advantage with the big guy.
Thanks for checking out my list!
October 4, 2020 10:22 a.m.
Starsky2814 says... #3
unwucht, you are right, this deck needs Spark Double. It’s too much fun cloning Omnath, Locus of Creation. Either Maelstrom Wanderer or Ravages of War will be cut for it. Also, the draw in the deck is much more consistent with recent changes.
October 4, 2020 7:21 p.m.
I'm debating removing Armageddon and Ravages of War for Spark Double and maybe an additional piece of hard removal like Path or maybe add one of the Omnaths back.
October 4, 2020 7:57 p.m.
Starsky2814 says... #7
rkjunior, definitely make the add for Lithoform Engine. I copied Ancient Greenwarden’s ability while having Sakashima the Impostor copied as Omnath, Locus of Creation and both had second landfall trigger on the stack for a net then cast Finale of Devastation at for Craterhoof Behemoth.
October 4, 2020 8:05 p.m.
Starsky2814 says... #8
rkjunior, I’m either going to keep Armageddon or replace it with Mana Breach or Confounding Conundrum. But I am definitely going to cut Ravages of War for Spark Double.
October 4, 2020 8:09 p.m.
Could Strionic Resonator create the same amazing mana effect you had mentioned previously, had it been on the field instead?
October 4, 2020 9:38 p.m.
Starsky2814 says... #10
Arzais, yes, Strionic Resonator would have had the same effect in place of Lithoform Engine and would also be a good add or alternative to the engine if you only care to copy triggered abilities.
October 4, 2020 10:51 p.m.
Starsky2814 mass land removal is a bit frowned upon, and although my playgroup grudgingly accepts MLD I would be willing to sacrifice both Armageddon and Ravages of War for 2 more slots in this deck. Grudgingly, though, as I just ordered Ravages of War for this deck. Dang... I am glad you put Spark Double back in. The versatility of it is just too good to ignore. Especially if you have a few bounce effects you can abuse to fool around with it. Instead of Maelstrom Wanderer I would put my hopes on Temur Ascendancy as a haste enabler.
I am not willing, yet, to accept Kozilek, Butcher of Truth as another finisher. It is not even a rational reason, this deck simply does not "feel" Eldrazi...
October 5, 2020 2:07 a.m.
Starsky2814 What did motivate you to integrate Teferi, Time Raveler ? It is for sure a decent commander staple, but does it synergize well with the deck?
October 5, 2020 5:03 a.m.
Starsky2814 says... #13
unwucht, oh no, I’m sorry about Ravages of War. I just slotted mine back in my Gishath, Sun's Avatar deck. I’m going to hold onto Armageddon in the deck, at least a little longer to apply major pressure. Maelstrom Wanderer will be replaced with Temur Ascendancy. The two times I’ve cast Maelstrom in testing, I have whiff pretty bad. As for the addition to Teferi, Time Raveler, it is to prevent interaction while we are trying to blow up on a turn, since we don’t run any counter. Hopefully it’s useful and not a waste of a slot since he doesn’t really have synergy with the build.
October 5, 2020 9:06 a.m.
Adding T3feri to protect your explosive win-turn sounds legit. I simply was worried about the missing synergy effects but win-protection justifies his addition to the list :)
Don't worry, Ravages of War was missing my collection, so far, and in my eyes it is a commander staple, so no reason to regret getting it.
October 5, 2020 9:25 a.m.
Also, if you keep Armageddon you might consider replacing it with Catastrophe as it is more versatile at the cost of slightly increased CMC.
October 5, 2020 10:04 a.m.
Starsky2814 says... #16
That could be an easy fix seeing how Catastrophe was what I cut out of Gishath, Sun's Avatar to slot back in that Ravages of War. With Heroic Intervention on the stack, I’d assume everyone would scoop at that point. Great suggestion!
October 5, 2020 10:17 a.m.
Hm... I personally like Wargate, it might be a good card in a situation where you have a lot of mana but nothing good on your hand to fuel it into. But what would you cut for it?
October 6, 2020 10:39 a.m.
For further consideration: I would only include Wargate if you keep running into situations where you have tons of available mana but no cards to make use of it.
October 6, 2020 11:37 a.m.
Starsky2814 says... #20
unwucht, no cuts in mind at the moment. I’ll keep it on the back burner for now. Was just wondering if anyone felt it necessary to have another tutor. I personally have not experienced a need for it yet, I just like that it can grab any permanent and put it into play.
October 6, 2020 12:10 p.m.
If I were to ass another tutor, I would add Mystical Tutor to try to get one of our large X spells
October 6, 2020 12:44 p.m.
Starsky2814 says... #22
I agree Mystical Tutor would be the better add. To tutor a Finale or even Tooth and Nail would be idea over one permanent.
October 6, 2020 1:01 p.m.
Didn't I mention Mystical Tutor above a few days ago? Anyhow, recommended.
October 6, 2020 1:10 p.m.
Starsky2814 says... #24
I’d probably cut Temur Ascendancy for Mystical Tutor. I haven’t even noticed the lack of haste and if I do want it, I’d much rather have Akroma's Memorial which I’d even use Enlightened Tutor for if needed.
unwucht, you did in fact recommend Mystical Tutor. Just wasn’t sure if we were ready for the additional tutor. Since we are on the topic now, seems like a good time to make the inclusion. Thank you both for the feedback!
Tomorrow will be my first time playing the deck. I’ll keep you all posted how it performs. The next topic might come up as protection for Omnath, Locus of Creation. We’ll see how it goes.
October 6, 2020 1:19 p.m.
Sounds great, good luck and have fun playing the deck, Starsky2814! Most of the cards I miss are still in the mail. But I will probably be ready to take a budgetish version without original dual lands for a ride in a few days, as well!
Jensu08 says... #1
unwucht That's literally the only reason why I didn't mention it because it doesn't synergize with the token generation. Otherwise great card.
October 3, 2020 12:58 p.m.