Formortiis says... #2
The Muggings need to be Pillar of Flame s. Mugging seems better until you realize that it can't hit players directly which is very important for any aggro burn deck.
Also Rubblebelt Maaka and the Desecration Demon should be cheap creatures with either haste or unleash for Exava to give haste to.
July 3, 2013 9:56 p.m.
quickstream says... #3
Rubblebelt Maaka is a placemat the bloodrush means it dont hurt the decks speed, im not keen on Desecration Demon either to be honest but people think its a good call so il try it out properly. I am trying to get Pillar of Flame but right now it keeps looking like im making one sacrifice after another pushing more and more cards into the innisstrad block. i would love more ravnica suggestions rather then Hellrider Pillar of Flame and Vexing Devil .
July 3, 2013 10:02 p.m.
Formortiis says... #4
Pillar of Flame is cheap, so there's no reason not to run it. As for Hellrider, I didn't mention it for that exact reason.
As for Rubblebelt Maaka, the problem is that there are way too many better cards. You can use the Maaka spots as either more Spears and Pillars (which you desperately need) or bodies that can swing continuously early on like Gore-House Chainwalker .
July 3, 2013 10:57 p.m.
quickstream says... #5
Gore house is too slow for this deck imo early on I want haste so to that end maaka with bloodrush for 1 red gives a nice 3/3 yes it's a placemat and will be removed but until I get more burn cards it stays I'm just hoping m14 and theros get more burn
July 4, 2013 7:22 a.m.
Formortiis says... #6
It's a consistent 3 damage a turn instead of a one-shot 3 damage. Trust me when I say it's better (especially with Exava).
July 4, 2013 2:44 p.m.
Take it from me, I spent about 2 months at FNM and WNM running 4 vexing devils, you're better of without them. They don't give you permanent board presence which is what you REALLY need.
July 4, 2013 3:17 p.m.
If you don't want Gore-House Chainwalker then try Spike Jester
July 4, 2013 3:25 p.m.
quickstream says... #9
Spike Jester is already in my deck and thanks I was considering Vexing Devil il test it in it's current form see how well it works it's the best way to work out kinks
July 4, 2013 3:29 p.m.
Thebigshaggy says... #10
The problem with Vexing Devil is that the opponent makes the decision. One drop 4/3 could be good, one drop 4 to the dome could be good. But if you need a creature to block with and you draw Vexing Devil, and they've got 5+ life, you're boned. If they've got a 3/X creature they can give up and/or something bigger than 4 toughness, and/or first strikers, they can let the card hit the field and be of no use.
Plus, Boros Reckoner eats him for breakfast anytime past turn 3.
July 5, 2013 12:10 a.m.
Just an FYI, my friend and I played using your deck against mine and I won the match 2-1. I used my aggro against this. Some suggestions: you say you want this to be fast but you've loaded the deck with cards that cost more than 3 and not all of them have haste. In reality you'll likely have 2 unleashed Cacklers out before Exava hits the field and if you have both Exava and Hellrider in your hand, Hellrider, hands down is the card to play. Brimstone Volley is also a waste of a space in this deck. It's morbid ability is nice but it's too costly. Early burn removal should be cheap. No one is throwing out a 5/5 on turn 3 very often. Searing Spear, Skull Crack, Pillar of Flame, all good cards to burn your opponent with and then swing on an empty board. Your deck is bogged down with cards like Desecration Demon and Rubblebelt Maaka. Also, if you want to keep it budget, I'd remove the Blood Crypts and instead throw in two guildgates. If you play with cheaper cards, it's less land overall you'll need for the deck. There isn't enough consistency here. At least if you keep the deck cheap, then rotating cards out later won't be such a bitter task since you didn't waste much on them.
July 5, 2013 12:39 a.m.
Formortiis says... #12
Take it from me, I spent about 2 months at FNM and WNM running 4 vexing devils, you're better of without them. They don't give you permanent board presence which is what you REALLY need.
I'd also like to point out that this argument can be used to justify taking out the Rubblebelt Maakas as they don't give you permanent board presence until turn 4 which is when you would want Exava instead.
July 5, 2013 12:42 a.m.
If you're truly playing a burn deck, you'll be able to play Vexing Devil on turn 1 more than 70% of the time.
July 5, 2013 12:49 a.m.
DragonClaymorePlus5 says... #14
I used to run Rakdos Aggro myself at my local FNM, and I'd suggest you cut down your copies of Legion Loyalist down to 2 or 3. They are only good one at a time, and against many decks they will only ever be a 1/1 for 1. I ran three of them, and always ended up pitching a few to my sideboard in favor of other threats. If I drew more than one, I ended up doing quite poorly in that round.
I'd recommend some slightly larger creatures in their place. Gore-House Chainwalker is pretty decent, any three-power creature for two mana is a great deal, especially when its only drawback is not blocking. Then, you could add more copies of Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch when the Hellriders rotate out to really capitalize on her ability.
Against control decks, Reckless Waif Flip is a terror. She's almost a guaranteed 3/2 ready to swing on turn 2, because what control deck makes a turn 1 play? She's rotating soon, sure, but she's all of $0.25, so definitely worth a go, either mainboard or sideboard.
For your sideboard, I'd recommend some copies of Duress or Appetite for Brains . They grab cards like Supreme Verdict or other things that would ruin your board presence. Appetite for Brains grabs Thragtusk , which is extremely relevant, especially because it gets exiled, so no Unburial Rites shenanigans for them.
Rakdos Charm is also an excellent sideboard card, I'd recommend 2 or 3 instead of just 1. Cast it in response to them playing a reanimation spell, and suddenly their spell does nothing. It also is a nice alternate win condition versus token decks. Artifact kill might be useful too, who knows.
Oops, wall of text. Well, it's hopefully helpful text.
July 7, 2013 5:40 a.m.
I would exchange your Shock s for Lightning Bolt s because they deal one more damage for same amount of mana. Plus, adding Vexing Devil is a great chance of getting "first-turn-damage" or a 4/3 on one turn. I think that was said in the first comment lol. Another great addition could be Ball Lightning for a quick 6 damage (when this deck is out of Standard, of course.) Anyway , good luck!
July 13, 2013 5:05 p.m.
quickstream says... #16
CShade, the idea is to keep this deck IN standard, iv said that in the description, i appreciate the advice but its counter productive
July 14, 2013 7:35 a.m.
Add Sign in Blood maybe, I think your hand will run empty very quickly. and decide on a more definite archetype like all out aggro or all out burn.
Also i really think Pillar of Flame is better then mugging and shock because it hard counter Voice of Resurgence and creatures like Strangleroot Geist .
But overall it seems nice +1
July 17, 2013 9 a.m.
quickstream says... #18
If i had Pillar of Flame i would add it, sadly i dont not to mention im trying to avoid cards that rotate out i do have some but im keeping a build thats rotate safe prepared.
i like Sign in Blood as a card but thats 2 black mana which for this deck might be a challenge, i am thinking of maybe going deeper and splashing real green for a jund blitz style deck, anyone think its worth while?
July 17, 2013 10:46 a.m.
Stuart123987 says... #19
I would run foundry street denizen as another one drop with 2 or 3 power.
July 17, 2013 12:48 p.m.
quickstream says... #20
Foundry Street Denizen is a good idea actually, il give it some thought it might find its way into the build not sure
July 17, 2013 8:19 p.m.
Stuart123987 says... #21
I run a similar deck and once I get two legion loyalists then I will have 10 one drop dudes which really help put a lot of pressure on your opponent and is good on 3 manna because you can drop 2 dudes. Also firefist striker b/c not letting your opponent block is fun.
July 17, 2013 10:01 p.m.
quickstream says... #22
Firefist Striker is on my maybe list people are telling me to drop Mugging but for a 1 mana cast it stops blockers and does 2 damage which can kill a lot of creatures, nether the less i might drop it to trial some other things my first 2 versions finished FNM with 2 wins and 2 losses, hopefully a more refined version can score me a 3 wins day or top 4 in FNM
July 17, 2013 10:37 p.m.
Stuart123987 says... #23
The suggested replacement for mugging is pillar of flame because it exiles and that is necessary with voice of resurgence running around.
July 18, 2013 1:08 p.m.
quickstream says... #24
I am on the hunt for a few, but also i am trying to not delve too deep into the older cards granted i can drop that illusion as i already have but i am on the hunt for someone with spare pillars
July 18, 2013 2:36 p.m.
daveandkenz says... #25
Shred-Freak is cool, but I think I would just run 3x Burning-Tree Emissary to get more out and I would also probably drop Exava for Rubblebelt Raiders . Exava is cool, but the cacklers are the only thing she benefits. I would also consider Annihilating Fire over Brimstone Volley . Same cost, it just exiles them.
quickstream says... #1
It's an alright deck, for what im aiming for mine is a lot faster the enchants serve as a bonus for me rather then a perm boost im not looking to trample just hit so fast they wont be able to stop me, iv got myself 2 Hellrider s anyways so might aswell play them gives more diversity to the deck too
July 3, 2013 9 p.m.