Orio Oloro Overweight - aka Fatboy Slim
Commander / EDH
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jaeger_Konig says... #2
Hi nice deck from what i have seen so far. A few things to always consider when making a deck would be to try and forgo any one and done spells unless you have a way to get them back or they impact the board immensely. Spells such as: Spinal Embrace, Beacon of Immortality, Lim-Dul's Vault,Death Grasp, and Promise of Power. These cards don't seem to have a real reason for being in the deck other than you want them in there or perhaps the redundant life gain. Don't get me wrong, tons of life is nice, but sometimes it isn't necessary and shouldn't dictate whether or not the card remains in the deck.
A few cards I think will under perform for you are: Sorin, Lord of Innistrad i had him in my Esper deck and i found myself never wanting to cast him over my other cards and eventually took him out., Iridescent Angel is a beat stick with no other benefits not good enough for a card slot I believe, Wall of Reverence seems okay, but again kind of redundant on the life gain and not a beat stick.
Some Switches i would Recommend are Vedalken Orrery for Leyline of Anticipation mainly because you can spend colorless instead of bb2, that's my opinion however. Being able to start the game with it on the field is nice. but will seldom happen. Elspeth, Sun's Champion for Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, you get some nice controll with her and she can majorly impact the game when she comes out and win if left unchecked. Erebos, God of the Dead for Greed, the ability to stop your opponents from gaining life is extremely underrated, plus he can become a creature, and you still can draw cards, just all around better I think.
Austere Command For End Hostilities, the Command is a kind of catch all board wipe and is extremely good in EDH. It can save you when you need it and it lets you pick and choose what you kill.
Now to some cards i think would be good in the deck: Cabal Coffers, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth(not to mention this make colorless lands into swamps and all plains and islands into dual lands) for tons of mana to Exsanguinate. To Find those lands you can run Expedition Map or just search them out or draw into them. Animate Dead and Reanimate to get back some of your fatties from the grave to keep on hitting. Path to Exile, and Reality Shift for some more creature spot removal. Disciple of Bolas is a super good card and is underrated as a black card i believe.
Last but not least you might consider changing your mana base to not enter tapped so much. That seriously slows down your game play and has a much bigger impact than you would think. If you need any help feel free to ask and peek at my deck Oloro's Oppressive Occupancy . +1 for a good deck!
May 7, 2015 2:05 a.m.
MrHighscore says... #3
Thanks for the feedback Finarfin84 & jaeger_Konig.
Erebos, God of the Dead and Phyrexian Reclamation are certainly going into the deck.
Leyline of Anticipation is replaced with Vedalken Orrery.
I am currently out of Cabal Coffers/Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth/Vesuva/Expedition Map sets, so for those I have to wait on the mail man. (and for Reanimate and Disciple of Bolas).
I'm fairly happy with the spot removal, but I'll probably replace Lim-Dul's Vault with somehting interesting like Render Silent
Cheers
May 7, 2015 1:22 p.m.
Spinalripper says... #6
Run both? Makes the effect more consistent with so few tutors.
May 8, 2015 3:15 a.m.
jaeger_Konig says... #7
The reason he shouldn't run both is so he doesn't have any redundancy in the deck. Later in the game when your top decking, its nice to not draw a card that is already in play. It essentially becomes a dead card. I suggest one or the other, but not both.
May 8, 2015 10:22 a.m.
jaeger_Konig says... #8
I was wondering why you decided to take Sorin, Solemn Visitor out of the deck?
May 8, 2015 10:26 a.m.
Spinalripper says... #9
@jaeger_Konig: I suppose, my Oloro build is nearly creaturless and plenty of cantrips to get past those issues. Not to mention he's a draw engine himself so drawing a redundant spell is better than not drawing it at all.
May 8, 2015 4:31 p.m.
MrHighscore says... #10
@Spinalripper I'd be happy to add a Vampiric Tutor.
@jaeger_Konig not sure what it added, and I wanted to keep Greed in the deck when I added Erebos, God of the Dead. I can, of course, put it back, but what would you replace it with?
May 11, 2015 12:59 p.m.
MrHighscore says... #11
Deck updated in line with suggestions above.
Replaced:
- Wrath of God with Austere Command for a higher flexibility
- Spinal Embrace with Vampiric Tutor for a higher flexibility
- Cauldron of Souls with Elspeth, Sun's Champion for better control
- Iridescent Angel with Magister Sphinx because it is better with lifegain shenanigans
- Mindleech Mass with Disciple of Bolas because it is easier to profit with (life and cards)
- Wall of Reverence with Sorin, Solemn Visitor because of jaeger_Konig
- Dimir Guildgate with Cabal Coffers
- Transguild Promenade with Vesuva
- Rupture Spire with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
May 17, 2015 1:35 p.m.
jaeger_Konig says... #12
All of these updates seem to be pretty good to me. The only one i kind of not disagree with ,but would have just added in and took something else out would be Wrath of God. The more board wipes the better in my opinion, however, one of your win cons is to use creatures to kill them so its all good.
Also if you can I would run Reanimate and Animate Dead, they target ALL graveyards which makes them totaly worth running, another honorable mention is Profane Command that can really bring some versatility to the game. You most likely will give X creatures fear, seeing as you want to swing out, and do X damage to someone. The other two modes are really good as well. I would also run Expedition Map now that your running Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth+Cabal Coffers. If you have those out allready you could search out Vesuva making a second Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth for tons of mana.
Love to see where this is going!
May 17, 2015 2:24 p.m.
jaeger_Konig says... #13
If your looking for a card that's weak or under performing in my opinion its Death Grasp, which you can replace with Profane Command. You can still make them lose the life and still kill a creature, plus other options.
May 17, 2015 2:27 p.m.
MrHighscore says... #14
@jaeger_Konig lol, those cards are lying on my desk laughing in my face. I have no idea what to cut for them.
I'm okay with Death Grasp for Profane Command, but I can't see what to drop for Expedition Map or Reanimate. I havent played with Animate Dead for decades (litterly), but I have not thought of it in a EDH context... it makes a lot of sence.
May 17, 2015 2:42 p.m.
jaeger_Konig says... #15
You can switch our End Hostilities for Wrath of God, less cmc for same effect. Killing stuff attacked to creatures isn't a big deal really. they are useless without a creature to attach to. Honestly i would just take out a bad tap land for Expedition Map. A creature I love running is Sun Titan to get fetch lands and stuff like Expedition Map back from the graveyard. He isn't a slouch either being a 6/6 vigilance.
I have always found Promise of Power to be a little under whelming for its cost/benefit. and would suggest adding in a better draw spell. If you still want some versatility and don't care about the life loss Damnable Pact. It can draw you cards or put the finishing X damage on someone.
Also Sun Droplet for Animate Dead in my opinion. Get more use out of a big creature than a little bit of life here and there.
May 17, 2015 3:26 p.m.
MrHighscore says... #16
@jaeger_Konig I'll try out all your suggestions for the next set of games (none schduled for quite a while though). Thanks for all the helop!
Cheers.
May 17, 2015 4:31 p.m.
jaeger_Konig says... #17
Feel free to leave any suggestions you have for me on my deck, all help is appreciated! Oloro's Opulent Order
May 17, 2015 7:05 p.m.
Quicksilver says... #18
The funk soul brother? I'd recommend the Enlightened Tutor, that will get you your Quicksilver Amulet quickly :D
June 1, 2015 12:47 p.m.
MrHighscore says... #19
Updated manabase to be a little less crappy.
As I removed Cabal Coffers I should probably also remove Expedition Map
June 25, 2015 2:28 p.m.
Looks pretty good. The only suggestion that immediately comes to mind is Serra Ascendant. Surprised she's not already in the list.
August 9, 2015 12:28 a.m.
MrHighscore says... #21
@NarejED thank you - I've been too cheap to buy it, but just got my hands on one.
Expedition Map --> Serra Ascendant
Cheers
August 9, 2015 1:09 p.m.
NinjaBunny01 says... #23
I would say, as a fellow Oloro user, you should add Sphinx's Revelation back in for something else. That card is so nice to draw and gain life off of, that you will definitely miss it. I would even go as far as running it over a walker. Also Liliana Vess is a very good control/tutor card you may want to consider.
August 10, 2015 10:40 p.m.
jaeger_Konig says... #24
Sphinx's Revelation is a fantastic card, however it takes so much mana to make it worth casting you seldom ever want to cast it. Alhammarret's Archive fits the deck style way too much to not be in the deck and i think it was a great replacement for shpinx's rev. Now as to Liliana Vess she is an all around decent card, decent but not good. Her tutor aspect is to slow for a competitive game seeing as it does not go into your hand. Also seeing as your only going to tutor with her, maybe only once, and probably never use the other modes in this deck i would run a normal tutor over her anyway.
Now for a few recommendations I think you will like: Mystic Gate, Sunken Ruins, Fetid Heath for all the temples. Boseiju, Who Shelters All for Temple of the False God, mainly so you can make our kill spells like Exsanguinate uncounterable. Mana Vault for extra ramp, its really good trust me. Last but not least Cryptic Command because this card is so good it should have never been printed. You might say triple blue is too much, well not if you add in the lands I suggested and the rest of your mana base. Nothing like using Mystic Gate to turn a plains into double blue! Deck looks to be coming along quite nicely! How have the previous suggestions helped?
August 11, 2015 11:37 a.m.
jaeger_Konig says... #25
Also if you have the extra money trade out Jace, Architect of Thought for Jace, the Mind Sculptor, does mainly the same thing because your going to -2 him anyway or even Karn Liberated
Finarfin84 says... #1
I can't see Erebos, God of the Dead and Phyrexian Reclamation. I'd run less permanents and more counterspells, but this is my style to play. I'd play a mirror match against this oloro deck with my one Oloro for President!.
But I liked your conception, so +1 granted.
May 7, 2015 1:58 a.m.