Paradise, Damnation or Tariel [[PRIMER]]
Commander / EDH
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Magus of the Wheel - could be useful because it can get multiple uses
January 26, 2018 3:50 p.m.
I was curious what the point of the shambling skeleton is and have you tried Urbask so when you cast rise from the dark realms all the creatures have haste since anger would come back as well?
July 25, 2019 10:52 p.m.
Bigglebee Reassembling Skeleton pairs nicely with Skullclamp as it is essentially B{2}:draw 2 cards. Similar to the Stinkweed imp it is a good early game blocker with built in recursion. I'd say 9/10 times I'm casting him from the graveyard as he is either discarded by Malfegor, wheel of fortune or milled by mesmeric orb.
July 26, 2019 1 p.m.
@Biglebee I used Urabrask in the past in this deck and the issue is two-fold: I mill myself a LOT with mesmeric orb and Anger is active when in the graveyard, Urabrask is not. Second I wrath a lot so often times I'd be destroying my own Urabrask which would shut him down whereas anger would remain active. I do like the effect to slow down opponents however, as it pairs nicely with Blind obedience and similar cards but I'd have to reconsider wrath and mill a bit more than my liking to get mileage here.
July 26, 2019 1:06 p.m.
Hey thanks for the info super awesome but after you cast rise assuming it goes off aren't you kind of stuck since anger will be back so nothing will be able to swing unless it has built in haste?
July 26, 2019 3:06 p.m.
Bigglebee yes, if i cast rise of the dark realms (or ultimate Liliana) the creatures would not have haste as anger is no longer in the graveyard. that being said I usually can make it back around. If i have my Avacyn out I'm fairly wrath proof except for a merciless eviction but keep in mind that it would exile both their creatures AND mine. Most of the time when this happens I end up milling out everyone while I shuffle back Ulamog. note: he is NEVER in the graveyard and unless you hard cast him he is not there for the merciless eviction so he tends to be safe assuming you do not cast him into an exile effect. This would justify a means to sacrifice him (so you can shuffle him back in before he is exiled) but I feel like i would need 3-4 slots to have reliable sacrifice effects which would require changing the deck a bit too much. but you never know
July 26, 2019 8:11 p.m.
If you don't mind me asking in your play group how well does this deck do? ae0n5105
July 31, 2019 9:19 p.m.
Bigglebee it does good. It's one of our competitive level decks, so when i play it my friends bring out their "A game" decks including ones lead by: Xenagos (gruul midrange/heavy), the Mimeoplasm, Nekusar and a Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis control deck.
I win about 1/3 of the time but their decks are really good too.
I have to keep an eye out for the Mimeoplasm (Graveyard) and Nekusar (wheels) since they can benefit from my strategy fairly well, so i have to keep them in check or things will get out of hand.
Just FYI: I'm finding that Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre is an EDH staple as it: 1. makes it very difficult to be milled out, and 2. Makes your deck have more than 99 cards by principle.
I regularly get him into the graveyard, then end up drawing and playing spells more than once in a game. I'm sure the 99 cards only crowd would be upset there but it's the same as elixir of immortality (minus the having to cast it and everything).
I'm putting him in every deck I have at this point.
August 2, 2019 10:01 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #11
Nice deck. I can tell you have put a lot of thought into the various inclusions. Have you considered running some targeted graveyard hate (like Withered Wretch ) to increase the likelihood of Tariel's ability hitting a good target?
Also, Mindslicer is a powerhouse when it comes to filling graveyards while stripping opponents of resources at the same time. I run one in my Chainer, Dementia Master deck to great effect.
August 17, 2019 7:43 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor I have 2 Mindslicers but have not been able to put them in any decks as I tend to become the archenemy the second he comes around. Like a big flag that says "attack me first". This deck is strong but so are some of the other decks around, and flying a bit lower there is key. I will try him again but hopefully I wont have to change the deck majorly to protect myself...
Also I have tried withered wretch as well as Eater of the dead in the past, but I often find that my opponents tend to keep spicy creatures around. I mean yes I may get a solemn simulacrum, a small elf or the like on occasion but I have yet to hit a creature I couldn't benefit in some way. Plus the randomness is fun sometimes, especially when I learn a new combo I never thought about before or didn't expect. Worst case I can 'clamp it and send it on back.
Thank you!
Bezter says... #1
Illusionist's Bracers All dayyyyy. Do Tariel's ability again for free.
February 19, 2017 8:56 p.m.