I'm just saying you dont need to have it. No need to splash green just for that card. you dont have to have Triton Tactics either. Phenax, God of Deception consuming abberation and your walls will mill just fine on thier own.

you need to focus on surviving aggro so you have a well rounded deck. Your chances of winning go up every turn past turn 6. Things like Doom Blade , Rapid Hybridization , Dark Betrayal , Cyclonic Rift , and Psychic Strike are much more important for your win condition than any standard green card out there.

be confidant that your god will mill your oppnant out in 2 to 3 turns. Your cards need to ensure that you'll survive (or avoid) aggro.

I do agree with your strategy. I was just saying that instant speed had nothing to do with it.

I wazs thinking of making a deck similar to this. Horizon Chimera + Jace + Fate Unraveler was what I was thinking, but not only would I gain the life from the +1 of Jace, but I would also be able to have a powerful milling machine, and when Jace Ultimates, I can instantly win the game unless I'm playing life gain, with a ridiculous life total.

Consuming Aberration is a great card for mill anytime u cast a card he mills till they hit a land and gets stronger. Have you thought about Mind Grind . With all the mana you are able to produce it should be no problem for you to empty their library.

@ That1bassplayer -- Your point regarding the lack of need for Prophet of Kruphix is valid, but your argument solely implies that I'm playing incorrectly. tempest already shared the reason for including her, as she can increase the potency of the deck. Not only does it allow me the opportunity to mill twice per turn cycle, but it also opens up my mana to cast other creatures or kill spells. Her inclusion would be very beneficial if she fit into the curve better.

Even with the green ramp this deck can easily mill my opponent out in 2-3 turns once Phenax hits the field, so I'm not too worried about that. Your concern is correct though - this deck needs to focus on surviving aggro early game, and is much more likely to win if it does. This may require changing around the instants, but I will be sticking with BUG for now, unless further testing warrants that change.

@ Ryoshia -- I'd love to see how that deck pans out, let me know when you start it!

@ Chizlo -- I'm trying to work Consuming Aberration into the build. Mind Grind is a decent card, but doesn't add to the high-toughness mill strategy, which the Aberration does (and also serves as an alternative win con). Please let me know if you have any ideas on how to include it!

Well I use Psychic Strike which is a good way to get cards into the library. I also use Prophet of Kruphix to flash him in. There's really no way you can't work the Consuming Aberration 's in. They do the work themselves. Try getting rid of the walls.

Chizlo- I think he was implying what cards he should take out for the aberration, so which specific wall?

In my opinion, you don't need Colossus of Akros . It's in there for the alternate win con but you should only have one alternate and I do believe the aberration is the better of the two

It would have to be Wall of Frost . Yeah it has a good ability but it can't bite back after it's blocked something if you get what I mean and it's not a mana producer. TheColossus of Akros bites back. It is a 10/10. I would try getting rid of either the Doorkeeper and Wall of Frost for Consuming Aberration and Hover Barrier for it's flying ability, plus it's only one Island compared to two which you might not have.

For instances where Doom Blade will not work, have Dark Betrayal in the sideboard. It is the cheapest, best (IMHO) answer. Grisly Spectacle is nice, yes, but it is over-priced, mana wise.

I'd drop the green all together...

Make a bit more blue devotion, and add in Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx and Mind Grind .
Wall of Frost is a great blue devotion card. Hover Barrier is a great defender too. Along with Frostburn Weird to ramp your devotion (and a high toughness)

Nykthos adds in all the mana ramp you need (and it will make you able to get off Colossus of Akros or an overloaded Cyclonic Rift .Triton Tactics makes Phenax, God of Deception combined with Consuming Aberration just that much meaner...

In this set, Ultimate Price > Doom Blade (especially with Mogis and Whip decks being a thing), Though it does depend on your playgroup's meta... I'd put 2 of each and have the other 2 of each in sideboard.

@ DrLitebur -- Agreed. I will keep Dark Betrayal in mind when constructing a sideboard.

@ Gilenborn -- Please note that this deck is budget and the constraint I have set is $50. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is way too expensive to include. Mind Grind is also a suboptimal card for this deck, as it does not contribute to the high-toughness theme. Consuming Aberration should be replacing Colossus of Akros shortly. My meta also doesn't include any MBD decks, and black in general rarely shows up surprisingly.

What do you guys think about replacing Doorkeeper with Hover Barrier ? The Keeper helps out when I don't have a Phenax to drop, but the Barrier is much better with Phenax and a better defender. It doesn't fit the curve too well either (the Barrer).

In my own mill deck, I tried out 4x Doorkeeper , and the results were...crappy. The problem is you need a horde of creatures with defender for it to be really useful. I would replace them with possibly Omenspeaker , to help set up cards with scrying, and provide a three butt for Phenax, if and when you get him out.

I think it's a great idea. Two walls with the same cmc is good.

@ DrLitebur & Chizlo -- Would Omenspeaker be better overall than Hover Barrier ?

i support taking out Doorkeeper for omenspeaker. with the phenax, its ability is pretty irrelevant, and without the phenax, it doesn't really do much. however much i like hover barrier, i have to say omenspeaker because of the mana curve.

i think you should take out green. you'll need removal early game and more removal for green devotion later on. its also easier on the mana base. if you still want ramp, there's the keyrunes and the cluestones but those are also 3 mana. if you have mana problems, there's Chromatic Lantern , which is also 3 mana...

you can also play around with Illusionist's Bracers for more mill but it'll probably be unnecessary

What about Kiora's Follower + Illusionist's Bracers + Codex Shredder combo ?

@ tempest -- Agreed. I'd much rather include Hover Barrier than Omenspeaker , but she fits the curve much better. Should I drop green, I'd replace Axebane Guardian with Hover Barrier , but what should I replace Sylvan Caryatid with? Another kill-spell or something? I'm not sure if the mill that I would net from Illusionist's Bracers is worth it.

@ CanibalKaiser -- I'm failing to see the combo... The best I can come up with is that it would net 2 more cards milled, is that it?

I'm going to make the following changes:

• Replace Colossus of Akros with Consuming Aberration
• Replace Doorkeeper with Omenspeaker

2 x Kiora's Follower on the battlefield, one equipped with Illusionist's Bracers and a Codex Shredder out,

Tap the equipped kiora's follower to untap Codex Shredder, Illusionists Bracers trigger and use it to untap the other kiora's follower.Use the second kiora's follower to untap the equipped kiora's follower.Repeat until opponent is milled completely.

@ Drkblade -- Thank you for the explanation - I didn't think of having two Followers out. That's a lot to put in a deck whose main goal doesn't align with that strategy. Plus, I generally don't like kicking off infinite combos.

couldnt Kiora's Follower untap itself?

it specifically says "another target premanent" so no :/

o sorry my bad

@ tempest -- Thanks for explaining!