rckclimber777 says... #2
Boundless Growth only gives colorless mana and can only be used once. I typically have plenty of mana with this deck with all of the mana ramp in it. I'll put it in the maybe board, but I just haven't been convinced of it yet.
July 31, 2011 10:04 a.m.
Phobophile says... #3
this deck doesn't seem very viable, you have no way to protect yourself early game. at all.
at least run a set of mana leaks,
add walls or one/two drop creatures you can defend with, OR more control spells, mainly blue or white creature control.
run less planeswalkers and more ponders to fish them out with.
July 31, 2011 10:24 a.m.
rckclimber777 says... #4
Tumble magnet and contagion clasp are perfect for the early game. If I'm going up against aggro, then I sideboard in the Day of Judgments. Trust me the deck is very viable. It takes some getting used to as it isn't your typical deck, but I challenge you to playtest it. I've played it against some very fast decks and have managed to easily win the game.
July 31, 2011 10:30 a.m.
rckclimber777 says... #5
After playtesting this quite a bit and seeing what works and what doesn't. I think I might put Shrine of Loyal Legions in the sideboard and play around with Rites of Flourishing in the MB. Also Day of Judgment is going to see a definite addition to the MB.
August 7, 2011 4:48 p.m.
rckclimber777 says... #6
AFter some mroe playtesting, I've updated the sideboard as it seems that I need help against Burn, Aggro, and Infect.
Dismember, Oblivion Ring and Day of Judgement are there for removal purposes.
The mana ramp in this deck is pretty amazing so I've added Fuel for the cause for control decks as it will actually counter the spell and still give me more loyalty counters.
Melira is there for infect protection.
Elixir of Immortality is for protection against mill and burn, both I feel are going to be huge in standard.
Any other suggestions for the sideboard or mainboard would be very appreciative. I plan to use this deck this weekend or a variant of it as I only have one Garruk, Primal hunter right now.
August 8, 2011 12:16 p.m.
Contagion Engine and Venser, the Sojourner seems like a nice repeating board wipe.
I would recommend Sphere of the Suns .
August 9, 2011 8:56 a.m.
rckclimber777 says... #8
I went ahead and tweaked the deck a little bit. I did some observations of how the deck performs. I found that Day of Judgment was too important to the deck to not have 3 in. Tumble Magnet works well, but my current version of the deck has only 3 copies in it and it has still performed beautifully. I decided this deck could do with one less and one more Ponder . I have also worked extensively to figure out the mana balancing, and I think it's just about perfect right now. It's very rare that I'll have to put in a land tapped after turn 1 unless it's one of the Scars lands. Give it a playtest and see what you think and of course if you like it give it a +1.
August 10, 2011 12:11 a.m.
rckclimber777 says... #9
Any help with the sideboard would be great. I think the deck is functioning pretty well as is right now, it's only falling to fast paced decks like Infect-livewire lash and goblins right now. And Green mana ramp as well.
August 12, 2011 11:07 a.m.
rckclimber777 says... #10
I went ahead and added Consecrated Sphinx to the maybeboard, because I played against it the other day and realized that it could be just as effective as the frost titan. I may make room for it in the mainboard and so I'm thinking of what might be good to take out of the MB. Let me know what you all think.
Also pulled another Jace, Memory Adept today and might throw it into the deck as well. Ideas?
August 14, 2011 6:07 p.m.
I put this deck together on MTGO!
UBER-Powerful!
Cheers man! Great deck.
+1
August 20, 2011 12:41 p.m.
You also might want to look into Exclusion Ritual I know its expensive I feel like you have enough ramp to pull it off. Better then bouncing the O-ring cause everything you exile stays exiled.
August 20, 2011 8:38 p.m.
rckclimber777 says... #14
I feel like by the time I get exclusion ritual out there, I'll already have the field pretty well controlled with my planeswalkers. I'll play around with it a little bit and see if it works out. I do like that it exiles whatever I wanted permanently.
August 20, 2011 8:49 p.m.
I run decks like this all the time and love them. My advice is to add Mimic Vat and another Day of Judgment .
The reason being, Tumble magnet is amazing at forcing the opponent to overextend for a judgment. Mimic vat gives you an early threat and a constant blocker, especially with 4 Judgments.
Hope I helped. +1 from me.
August 21, 2011 3:22 a.m.
rckclimber777 says... #16
I like the idea of putting a 4th copy of DoJ in. I need to think about the mimic vat a bit more. It may make an appearance. I think it is one of the best cards in standard right now, but I'm not completely sure what to take out in place of it.
Here is what I am considering right now though: Removing Contagion Engine for DoJ and another copy of Jace Memory adept. I haven't really been in need of the engine lately as DoJ has done great in general.
I would like to play this at FNM this weekend, but I need help with the sideboard. If anyone has some suggestions that would be great.
August 21, 2011 8:54 p.m.
1 venser and 1 rampant for 2 mimic vats?
You already have 2 vensers and he's a 5 drop, that's why I suggest him.
I'm personally not a big fan of green, I see the need for the hunter but do you really need the primeval titans? Really you just need the walkers ultimate for a win con, run it like super friends.
August 21, 2011 9:15 p.m.
rckclimber777 says... #18
In testing I've found that whenever the Primeval titans hit the board I tend to win the game soon after. I do run it like super friends for the most part, but the primeval titans just make it that much easier to take out my opponent since with venser its 4 lands per turn.
The ramp makes the deck work to be honest. It makes sure that Garruk comes out and does his thing and ensures that I have all the right mana. I think I'd be more inclined to drop Frost or the sphinx for a mimic vat, though I could probably drop one venser and be ok.
August 21, 2011 9:54 p.m.
I just really think you would like the vat. It's always good for me in control.
August 21, 2011 9:55 p.m.
rckclimber777 says... #20
I can see how its effective. I'll put to the maybe board and give it a shot.
August 21, 2011 11:05 p.m.
draconicdaemonic says... #23
The deck looks really good man. I know its about to rotate, but Wall of Omens could be really good early protection if you desperately needed it, though you may be ramping at that time... Just an idea at any rate. +1.
August 23, 2011 8:57 p.m.
rckclimber777 says... #24
Alright Updated Sideboard yet again. Here is the current logic behind it.
Kuldotha Red- Take out Mana leak, 1x Venser, Jace, Karn, 2x Tumble magnet for 2x Fog, 3x Timely Reinforcements, 1x Leyline of Sanctity, 2x Norn's Annex
Tempered Steel- Take out mana leak, 1x Tumble magnet 1x Venser Karn, Jace for 2x Fog, 2x Nature's Claim, 3x Timely Reinforcements
Caw-Blade-Take out 1x Venser, 1x Contagion Engine, 1x Karn, 2x Rampant Growth for 2x Nature's Claim, 2x fog, 1x elixir of immortality
Valakut- Take out 1x Venser, 1x Jace, 1x Consecrated Sphinx, 1x Rampant Growth, 3x Contagion Clasp, 1x Contagion Engine for 1x Leyline of Sanctity, 2x Fog, 3x timely Reinforcements, 2x elixir of Immortality
Mill- 1x Consecrated sphinx, 2x DoJ, 1x Contagion Engine for 2x Elixir of Immortality, 1x Leyline of Sanctity, 1x Nature's Claim.
This is what I"ve got so far, which means I still have a few slots in my sideboard to work with IE the creeping corrosions that are currently sitting in it and not being used. Possibly throwing in Tectonic edge or Negate for more Valakut protection and then working with caw-blade as well.
August 25, 2011 9:23 p.m.
rckclimber777 says... #25
I think Dissipation Field might find a permanent spot in my sideboard for against Valakut. Since whenever I have damage dealt to me by a permanent it gets returned to their hand. So it triggers once and then gets returned to their hand. They then have to use their land drop to put it down again only to get one trigger out of it before having to repeat it all over. At just 4 mana I can probably get it out turn 3 or 4 and thus shutting down the Valakut part of the deck, with tumble magnet, oblivion ring and DoJ I should be able to hand the rest of the deck.
ElementalMaster23 says... #1
I think that Shrine of Boundless Growth would be great for getting out Karn Liberated or for using it's colorless mana to be able to pay for two planeswalkers in one turn. just my opinion.
July 31, 2011 9:44 a.m.