heinrichgraum says... #2
Thank you! That is a very, very tough question given this deck's blatant disregard for budget considerations, but only a handful are over $10 in their cheapest printings. I would probably reconsider some of the cards that have been cut over this decks long history. Venser, the Sojourner, Ob Nixilis Reignited, Kiora, Master of the Depths, and Vraska the Unseen all spring to mind. I would also consider bringing back some of the old creatures like Clever Impersonator and Gilder Bairn which got cut to trim down towards the legendary theme.
March 15, 2022 8:37 p.m.
ObserverWill says... #3
Just wanted to drop a note to say that this is one of the best primers I’ve read. Your deck is extremely well thought out and I’m going to have to try it out at my LGS one of these days.
March 18, 2022 10:36 p.m.
joshross117 says... #4
Do you think the new Brokers Ascendancy would be a good fit for this deck?
April 22, 2022 2:50 a.m.
heinrichgraum says... #5
Yes, I do think Brokers Ascendancy is worth a slot in this deck for sure, the issue really is figuring out what I need to cut for it. And when I do I will swap out Merciless Eviction for Farewell.
April 22, 2022 9:37 a.m.
Dre4mc4tcher says... #6
Have you thought about Public Enemy? You could use it on another player in a multiplayer game or on one of your own creatures to prevent the opponent from attacking any of your planeswalkers.
June 5, 2022 5:15 a.m.
heinrichgraum says... #7
I feel like Public Enemy's floor is very low for a deck like this. It is much more fragile as an aura bc it is removable to both creature removal and enchantment removal. They can also just choose to block and draw a card, which makes this a pretty expensive, pretty bad removal spell.
June 6, 2022 10:14 p.m.
The new Lae'zel, Vlaakith's Champion can work as another Pir, Imaginative Rascal
See you :)
June 7, 2022 8:39 a.m.
heinrichgraum says... #10
Oh, good catch, but still, 3 mana to destroy a creature and draw a card is a lot, and its effect is not repeatable or recurrable, except by Eerie Ultimatum, which typically wins anyways.
As I don't really pay close attention to commander spoilers I did totally miss Lae'zel, Vlaakith's Champion. A second copy of Pir with a bigger body is very tempting, I will have to seriously consider it.
June 7, 2022 9:16 a.m.
Fwiw, while Lae'zel, Vlaakith's Champion misses out on Astral Cornucopia, unlike Pir, Imaginative Rascal it sounds like it avoids accidental anti-synergy with opponents cards like Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, Toxrill, the Corrosive, Black Sun's Zenith, etc.
July 11, 2022 1:57 a.m.
Jack_Dashing says... #12
what are your thoughts on Tevesh Szat in this deck as a planeswalker?
July 27, 2022 6:17 p.m.
Max_Hammer says... #13
Facepalm.
I was about to suggest Esika, God of the Tree Flip before I saw that this was Witch colors, not five color goodstuffs, lmao.
Anyway, this deck is sick, take my +1.
November 2, 2022 9:23 a.m.
heinrichgraum says... #14
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools is pretty good, about equivalent to Tezzeret, Artifice Master, but I personally don't enjoy Tevesh's ultimate. If you do, Tevesh is just strong enough to find a spot in the list.
November 4, 2022 4:01 p.m.
MilesHiles says... #15
This deck is cool! It's nice to see someone else with a full foil Atraxa Walkers deck lol The only opinion I have on it is that Kasmina, Enigma Sage, Primevals' Glorious Rebirth, and two of your lands should probably be counterspells of some sort. You have Eerie Ultimatum so Primevals' Glorious Rebirth is kinda redundant. If you really need to use mass resurrection twice in one game, you probably want to use direct spell/card recursion to get Eerie Ultimatum back instead. Kasmina, Enigma Sage basically does nothing for you but take up a card slot and let you scry (potentially) multiple times. You even listed in your reasoning that you don't use her ult much and without using her as a means to put a "better ult" on other walkers, you could just add a Counterspell to get rid of removal. Additionally, I'm betting with 37 lands that your late game can sometimes involve mana flooding in your card draws. 33-35 lands is more than enough to secure a decent chance at a 3 land opening hand and leaves room for control - which it looks like would be handy. Mana Drain, Force of Will, and Pact of Negation are all great picks since two are "free" and one GIVES you back mana for using it. Just a tip!
November 8, 2022 10:41 a.m.
heinrichgraum says... #16
I think those are absolutely valid changes to make, and would likely make the deck stronger, however I, personally, do not want to play this deck on other peoples' turns. I think this deck takes long enough turns as is and to be forced to make decisions on whether to leave mana up or not. As is, I can tap out every single turn without regrets and spend my opponents turns paying close attention to what they are trying to set up or accomplish as well as getting some much needed politicking done to draw fire away from myself. That is entirely because of my playstyle and if you want to try this deck against your playgroup and add more instants for more interaction I highly encourage it. As for your card choices, I am not particularly sold on Kasmina, Enigma Sage myself yet and have only cast her twice in actual games, she has sped up the ult clock significantly both times, but still I am hoping for another similarly costed walker I like to come out and take that slot. Eerie Ultimatum's mana requirement is harder to hit than Primevals' Glorious Rebirth's Legend requirement is, so I'd probably cut that instead. Thanks for the input!!
November 17, 2022 11:52 a.m.
MilesHiles says... #17
Totally understandable. I will say that with Primevals' Glorious Rebirth it has a bigger cost restriction since it only allows you to play it with a Legendary creature or Planeswalker in play AND you have to exile it afterwards. Eerie Ultimatum might be a bit harder color wise but between the shock, fetch and triomes you have, the ability to play it multiple times seems like it may be a better goal to aim for. Regardless, have fun with the deck!!
November 17, 2022 2:40 p.m.
Surprised to not see Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider in this list. Not only does it provide another Doubling Season effect of planeswalkers entering with double counters, but it also doubles the number of counters from +X abilities, as well as basically removing other players' abilities to get counters on their stuff. It's obviously more fragile than doubling season but I've found that having what is essentially another copy (with the added caveat of extra loyalty from the "cost" of putting loyalty counters on) is invaluable.
December 27, 2022 11:37 a.m.
Hi heinrichgraum. How would you revise your deck to include the 2 Maybe Boards from phyrexia all will be one? I assume you would have to adjust your mana as well?
February 8, 2023 5:36 a.m.
heinrichgraum Was there any Planeswalkers that you saw in the newest set that have potential?
February 8, 2023 5:38 a.m.
heinrichgraum says... #21
Ichormoon Gauntlet and Tekuthal, Inquiry Dominus are both ludicrously strong and warrant immediate inclusion the deck once prices stabilize. The easy cut is Kasmina, Enigma Sage which Ichormoon Gauntlet outclasses in almost every way. Tekuthal is much tougher to find a slot for and take a lot of careful consideration before I make the change. Lands have to change, with the amount of fetches and tri lands, colors are basically meaningless for this deck.
As for new planeswalkers printed in ONE, several of them have a lot of utility and will help plenty of decks out there, but the only one I am looking at is Koth, Fire of Resistance and the place he will have for him in Fireheart, my Chandra tribal deck. I like Nahiri, Nissa, Vraska, and Lukka as cards, but dont have decks that could take full advantage of them.
February 8, 2023 9:47 a.m.
heinrichgraum says... #22
Ichormoon Gauntlet and Tekuthal, Inquiry Dominus are both ludicrously strong and warrant immediate inclusion the deck once prices stabilize. The easy cut is Kasmina, Enigma Sage which Ichormoon Gauntlet outclasses in almost every way. Tekuthal is much tougher to find a slot for and take a lot of careful consideration before I make the change. Lands have to change, with the amount of fetches and tri lands, colors are basically meaningless for this deck.
As for new planeswalkers printed in ONE, several of them have a lot of utility and will help plenty of decks out there, but the only one I am looking at is Koth, Fire of Resistance and the place he will have for him in Fireheart, my Chandra tribal deck. I like Nahiri, Nissa, Vraska, and Lukka as cards, but dont have decks that could take full advantage of them.
February 8, 2023 9:47 a.m.
heinrichgraum what are your thoughts on Jukai Naturalist and Weaver of Harmony which seam to benefit all the enchantments in your deck.
February 19, 2023 1:08 a.m.
Would Resourceful Defense be a good addition. Would this transfer loyalty counters from a destroyed planeswalker to a remaining planeswalker?
March 7, 2023 12:17 a.m.
heinrichgraum says... #25
I think cards like Jukai Naturalist and Weaver of Harmony are not great additions for the deck. The enchantments exist to support the walkers, but supporting the supports isn't a winning strategy when deckbuilding. Resourceful Defense on the other hand seems great, filling the roll of support that you want. It's actually a card I've never heard of bc I tend to skip the commander sets mostly. I am unsure if its good enough here because it only stops destroy effects, which super common for walkers, but doesn't help when they are destroyed by damage, which removes their loyalty counters. It's probably worth trying out and seeing how it impacts games in which it's played.
Red_Pheonix says... #1
Your deck is really incredible! What kinds of planeswalkers would you recommend for somebody on a lower budget?
March 14, 2022 10:07 p.m.