[CA] Moving Shadows - Rogues & Ninjas
Commander / EDH
SCORE: 248 | 73 COMMENTS | 32099 VIEWS | IN 127 FOLDERS
Have you thought about using the first strike/ninjutsu combo here? I think rules would allow the first strike damage to happen, but the creature dealing it would still be considered as attacking and unblocked, so it can be used for ninjutsu, then all other creatures including the new ninja would deal "normal" combat damage. That would help triggering prowl as well as Yuriko.
I thought of cards like Power Matrix and Bladed Pinions here to give some evasiveness as well as first strike.
August 1, 2018 7:09 a.m.
Heisenbrain says... #3
Chadowboy I had some first strike shenanigans in my Admiral Beckett Brass Ninja-Pirates, but its difficult to do (Red helps a bunch). In UB there is pretty much only Power Matrix. You don't want Equipments that cost more than 1 to equip, because you want Mana for Ninjutsu and possible playing your attacker again and static effects like Akroma's Memorial will not work either. In Beckett Brass i gained an additional trigger from first letting the pirates do damage before ninjutsuing them out. In this deck it's the question if you're gaining enough to jump through so many hoops.
August 1, 2018 10:09 a.m.
Heisenbrain I must agree with you it could be expensive to keep equipping creatures at a 2+ cost. That said, I think Yuriko is almost always going to be in play due to the low cost ninjutsu so having a single extra trigger giving you a card in hand plus a loss of life for all opponents could be worth adding one or two cheap ways to get it. Would you consider Viridian Claw as a replacement for Bladed Pinions? Maybe there's already enough evasiveness in the deck so the flying was almost useless.
August 1, 2018 10:40 a.m.
CommanderAdventures says... #5
@gdm1989 @evwatkins As I said, not going down the Mill route ^^ I really just want to pick the decks apart leaving them with some useless combo pieces. I already have a Dimir Mill deck that works fine:
[PreCon] Brain Feast - Zombie Mill
Commander / EDH*
SCORE: 10 | 9 COMMENTS | 3196 VIEWS | IN 4 FOLDERS
@Chadowboy @Heisenbrain Yeah I was considering adding First Strike or Double Strike but sadly no real support in U/B (That got me thinking that Grixis Ninja must be fun too but I am fine with Dimir) I will consider adding Power Matrix
August 1, 2018 12:19 p.m.
Yeah I wasnt talking about your deck, I was suggesting that to iscottboy123 if he wanted to be competitive with yuriko.
The other cards I mentioned was to bounce the ninjas back and the vampire to ping opponents when you draw a card during your upkeep
August 1, 2018 10:24 p.m.
RobsJourney says... #7
Thoughts on Soldevi Excavations and Haunted Crossroads?
August 2, 2018 3:35 a.m.
RobsJourney says... #8
Can I also ask what you think about saccing Yuriko for value, eg. saccing her to Gate to Phyrexia? She can be re-ninjutsu'd for the same cost, then, that way you're guaranteed to be getting at least one Ninja - herself - through for damage.
August 2, 2018 4:17 a.m.
RobsJourney I feel like the budget part of this deck would take a hit with Gate to Phyrexia. However, I like the idea of saccing Yuriko. It would provide the same smokebomb effect as Crystal Shard and Erratic Portal, but will usually give another effect.
Also, you need to be able to sacc as an instant in combat phase to benefit from having a lot of attackers so that you get at least an unblocked one and ninjutsu Yuriko in.
Overall, I'd say cards like Vampiric Rites or Bubbling Cauldron would be a good fit here and the addition of Haunted Crossroads would become useful to apply sacc to other creatures than Yuriko as well as controlling your top deck for her trigger. Now that could be a lot of trouble if the sacc can only be applied to Yuriko, but she'll be ninjutsued constantly, so that might not be that bad.
August 2, 2018 10:58 a.m.
RobsJourney says... #10
Nice analysis man, and yeah, Gate to Phyrexia is probably a tad too expensive hey...
Awesome deck btw, cheers :)
August 2, 2018 7:03 p.m.
il-JumperMT says... #12
how is this even close to number 1 yuriko deck is very slow and doesnt even have 1 drops or win con
August 3, 2018 3:32 a.m.
CommanderAdventures says... #13
@il-JumperMT Its scoring at #1 on T/O if you look up Yuriko in deck search
Guess because it's fun and does its thing?
This is an adaptive casual deck. Never said that it's competitive...
August 3, 2018 6:23 a.m.
Hey I actually bought the Deck and am going to play it very soon (maybe even next week). If you want to I will give an update on how it performed for me and give a little feedback.
Also, when could we expect the Video in the CA-Youtube Channel?
August 8, 2018 11:24 a.m.
CommanderAdventures says... #15
Grageon Awesome! Remember to try it in a casual group. Its not tuned to compete against turn-4-win decks ^^
My deck will be ready in a month bc I am writing my bachelor theses right now. Video will be up around mid september! :)
August 8, 2018 12:27 p.m. Edited.
CommanderAdventures of course! I'm actually more into fun WinCons like splashing in that Ninja to get some nice effects. And this might be the perfect example of a fun to play deck, but we'll see how it goes.
August 8, 2018 12:31 p.m.
CommanderAdventures says... #17
Grageon Great, yeah I am excited to see it in action too. Looking forward to your feedback!
When you're really into fun-to-play decks you should check these two gems (Already tested them and they are pretty hilarious):
[PreCon] Rumsey Rum Crew - Pirate Tribal
Commander / EDH
SCORE: 3 | 401 VIEWS | IN 2 FOLDERS
[Upgraded][C11] Political Puppets - The Peacemaker
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SCORE: 2 | 384 VIEWS | IN 2 FOLDERS
August 8, 2018 12:41 p.m.
Emrakul, the Promised End is a nice edition to this deck so is Soothsaying
August 8, 2018 10:01 p.m.
CommanderAdventures I will take glance at them, for sure! And I wish you the best of luck for your bachelor.
August 9, 2018 5:42 a.m.
Jace, Cunning Castaway and Library of Leng combo with stacked Yuriko triggers so you can +1 Jace, attack, Vampiric Tutor Expropriate to the top of your deck, and for each ninja dealing damage you can have each opponent lose 9 life, discard Expropriate to the top of your deck, and repeat. If that's something you're into.
August 23, 2018 7:16 a.m.
Heisenbrain says... #21
@kdchmln not exactly, jace says “when one or more creatures...“ so you get only one loot regardless of how many creatures did combat damage. But library of leng would work that way with any free discard outlet.
August 23, 2018 9:47 a.m.
Hay I really like this deck. I use to have a ratninjutsu deck that used a lot of these same cards.
November 28, 2018 12:32 p.m.
CommanderAdventures says... #24
@drsergen yup not much choice there but the Ninja effects are all pretty insane!
November 28, 2018 5:14 p.m.
CosmicFuzz says... #25
Just one thing of note, you can't bounce Etrata, the Silencer back to your hand after combat damage as the ability resolves as soon as damage is assigned
evwatkins says... #1
gdm1989 Mindcrank would work well for mill with this commander
August 1, 2018 6:58 a.m.