Primal Devotion CAST YOUR DECK ON T3
Modern
SCORE: 271 | 185 COMMENTS | 27101 VIEWS | IN 185 FOLDERS
For a more budget version of this deck what would you put in instead of emrakul and Ulamog ? Also akroma's memorial?
February 15, 2016 10:01 p.m.
limpNuZZle says... #4
Ok so there are have been several comments, to all of which I cannot reply. But to a few, here goes...
I don't really like the other enchantresses because they aren't enchantments themselves and therefore, they only become useful with the casting of another card. I like instant value in this deck. To bring them in would ultimately reduce the consistancy and resiliency of the deck.
To the Asceticism comment, trust me when I say, I love that card. But it's a bit slow here and by the time we cast it, the T2&3 mana dudes have already become prey to the removal you are hoping to negate. Therefore, I believe that the drawback of the inconsistency that the card would bring to the deck is greater than the potential benefit that it represents. Basically, I want to stick with cards that play vital roles in the combo and enable big plays early and often. It is very easy to loose the focus of the deck by trying to do "too much" at once.
Lastly, for a more budget version of the deck I do have a thought. However, let me say that I cannot speak to what this will do to the decks consistency.. I just don't know. But I say do not cut Akroma's Memorial. And in the place of the Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hungers and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn run 3 copies of Hydra Broodmaster. The way this works is you combo off of Primal Surge and as your triggers resolve and your permanents are in play, you utilize all the additional mana and devotion to create 60,80,100+ mana to sink into broodmaster and then swing with one hundred 100/100 hydra tokens all with haste and trample and all the other good shit.
The only problem is that by loosing the three eldrazi, you miss out on being able to shut out your opponent with their cast triggers. Casting them legitimately is so easy with this deck so loosing them will hurt a bit. Let me know if you like the idea and if it works out for you!
Thank you guys for the continued support and interest!
February 15, 2016 10:27 p.m.
I think Fervor could be the lower budget replacement for akroma's memorial since all you really need is for your creatures to get haste (via a permanent)
February 16, 2016 1:10 a.m.
If I do try a budget version I think I may try out Colossus of Akros or the brood master or both along with fervor over the memorial
February 16, 2016 1:44 a.m.
Oooh.. Adding Hydra Broodmaster as an alternative to the eldrazi joys me to no end :D
I'm slowly getting the cards together for this deck, it'll be a great alternative to play instead of my Exiles deck :D
No-one will expect it!
February 16, 2016 4:21 a.m.
limpNuZZle says... #8
Sweet! Ya that sounds good too. I didn't look into the budget theme much. I'm not entirely familiar with the available haste enablers. Fervor seems legit.
February 16, 2016 6:47 a.m.
vortexgrey says... #9
LOVE the deck. Have you considered playing [Kiora, Master of the Depths] alongside Garruk? She can untap Arbor Elf and Voyaging Satyr, which means enchanted lands can produce more mana, often providing more mana than just untapping 2 lands. Not to mention that she is another Planeswalker, making having both her and Garruk out quite potent, and removes the conflict with the Planeswalker Rule. The fact that she can grab Lands and Creatures is a nice bonus as well. Just a thought, since the 4 Garruks seems excessive. In any case, +1
February 16, 2016 11:39 a.m.
is abundant growth the best? cantrip and all is nice but it dosen't give extra mana would an elf better?
February 16, 2016 11:26 p.m.
yavimaya_eldred says... #11
Abundant Growth is really bad, I'd rather play a devotion enabler like Wistful Selkie that's useful in more situations.
February 17, 2016 12:10 a.m.
Jimmy_Chinchila says... #12
Really cool deck, I wanna sleeve this up. +1 for sure.
Craterhoof Behemoth is always fun to have as even a one-of, multiples can put your damage incredibly high, I used to run 4x in a Simic Surge deck. I'm not sure the Eldrazi will be as potent without their casting trigger, and neither has ETB triggers. Guttural Response can help save your combo from blue mages, would be good in side.
Also, I don't believe your Auras enter attached to anything on a Surge, since assigning a legal target is a part of the casting process, and so they would go to graveyard at resolution, so they wouldn't contribute to devotion on a flop the way mana dorks like Elvish Mystic or Llanowar Elves would. The goal should be to draw your second Surge and have mana open to cast the second. Mana dorks can enter on a flop and power up the Nykthos that ends up on the field (obviously sac'ing the tapped one) so when you hit the Surge you just cast it right away.
February 17, 2016 12:35 a.m.
limpNuZZle says... #13
A couple valid questions. First off, the deck runs great with the Abundant Growths, but it is up to you to run something different. Try it out and let me know! I just love the early turn draws and with an Eidolon of Blossoms out, it says draw two for one mana (free with a Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx). So if that doesn't say value, I'm not sure what does. As for the Craterhoof Behemoth, I agree that they are better with the surge, but I have designed the deck to work without the surge too. While you do not get the eldrazi cast triggers from surge, you definitely get to cast these guys a lot too... I like having their abilities. However, taking them out for three hoofs, would be totally viable, but that's for you to decide.
This last topic is not opinion based. It is fact that upon entering the battlefield from Primal Surge all auras are able to be attached to any valid permanent immediately. This is how the timing works... You cast surge, exile an Abundant Growth off the top, it enters the battlefield, the draw trigger as well as the eidolon trigger (if you have one) goes on the stack to be resolved later, you attach the growth into what land you choose, and the surge continues. Feel free to watch the videos above. I know they are fast because mtgo has an awkward playback option. But as the auras ETB, you get the option to assign its target prior to the surge continuing.
February 17, 2016 7:46 a.m.
vortexgrey says... #14
Have you considered playing Fertile Ground over Abundant Growth by chance?
February 17, 2016 noon
I would check out Ring of Three Wishes. It is a permanent, so it won't cause Primal Surge to whiff. Also, it can tutor for your win conditions fairly easily with all the mana you produce.
February 18, 2016 12:23 a.m.
EpicFreddi says... #16
OKAY OKAY YOU KNOW WHAT? After geting ~30 notifications about this deck since I last visited I decided I'll build it myself. Screw it. Mono-Eldrazi is boring anyway. :D
February 19, 2016 8:51 a.m.
ManaTitheGuy says... #17
+1. I really like your deck concept. I have most of the cards and am considering building for fnm. I've read through all the comments so it's obvious you've thought out this build thoroughly, so I'll forgo the suggestions. I do have two questions though. When playing, and you don't combo off on t3-4, are there any responses your opponent has played that shuts you down? If not indefinitely, long enough for them to stage a formidable board state. if so what was that response? Thank you for the deck contribution.
February 20, 2016 12:38 p.m.
Eidolon is bad imho. I playtested your deck and it doesn't have may draw a card, so i primal surge with 3 cards left in deck and eidolon tells me to draw ~30 cards while i only have 3 left.
February 21, 2016 4:42 a.m.
ManaTitheGuy says... #19
@ kooper2, why would you need to cast primal surge if you only have 3 cards in your library? That means you have 57 cards either on the field, hand or graveyard. I have play-tested this deck about 15 times, I can say I have won more matches hard casting Emmy, and only decked myself once on Primal Surge. I was getting greedy trying to drop Akroma's Memorial and I lost track of the triggers.
Worst matchups so far have been heavy (U/x) control. Generally due to not ideal opening hands on my end. And I can't think of anything other than hoping for a great opening hand to help. I even had an affinity deck GG and rage quit. great feeling.
I am really liking this build and am sourcing out the ramp shell since I am not normally a green player. Thanks again for posting this and I'll keep you posted to how it fairs in RL when I get this deck put together.
February 21, 2016 11:40 a.m.
Nah, what i meant, i Primal surged for 57 cards, and had 3 left, then draw triggers makes me outdeck and lose the game. Sorry if i wasn't clear enough. I think i should have all the cards here, and can playtest it in a tournament - if you would like some genuine feedback of it :).
February 21, 2016 4:25 p.m.
Ah my bad, primal surge has you may... Righto, no need to outdeck. Cheers.
February 21, 2016 6:13 p.m.
limpNuZZle says... #22
Yeah man, you just surge for 10-15 permanents and once you hit another nykthos and Garruk, you will have plenty of mana to cast the rest of your deck. If you don't have your win con, cast one enchant at a time until you have it and then hard cast and eldrazi with haste and all the other goodies. Whoever said eidolon is bad, just cast it and watch how quickly your opponent kills it with fire! It's a great card! So much value. Even drawing one card is value when you get a 2/2 body to stick around and two devotion. I question your judgement haha.
February 22, 2016 8:12 a.m.
Deck thinning doesn't work. The link is
Take out the fetches to increase consistency.
February 22, 2016 8:59 a.m.
Link didnt post. It is http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/print.asp?ID=3096
February 22, 2016 9 a.m.
limpNuZZle says... #25
I feel you on the deck thinning, but I use them for deck manipulation. When corset is in play and I'm about to draw an unneeded card, I like fetching away the top card to have a chance at something better. And they grab the copy of Stomping Ground for when kessig wolf run is my game plan. No need to cut down on my options IMO.
obie74 says... #1
Not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but check out Yavimaya Enchantress. Seems like it may be worth it in the deck.
February 15, 2016 7:39 p.m.