Guerte I like it. I had my eye on Oracle's Vault for my version of this deck myself lol.

I was also considering including Oracle's Vault in my Daretti deck, but the main issue is that any land it finds beyond your "1 land per turn" automatically stops the Paradox Engine combo. I've also run into so much more artifact hate since I first started playing EDH that I'd be surprised if Oracle's Vault lasted three turns to take advantage of the free casting ability.

Why not the sexy promo Oracle's Vault?

SVHowdy: Vault is really just a value engine. If you're trying to go off with it and Engine, you really should include Sensei's Divining Top as it will ensure you hit non-lands to cast. Otherwise, yes, you will fizzle.

SnowCoveredPlainswalker: I do have the promo version. Just haven't updated it to reflect. In fact, when I do update that, I have to update the rest of the deck as I have sold most of the higher end foils including Expos and Inventions. I can no longer justify having those expensive cards when I rarely play and have to purchase a fence for my house. Sad days. One day I hope to be able to have him pimped again.

Guerte Honestly I'd just leave it like it is. As it provides those who seek to have the best of the best, someone like myself to have a target to aim for. Whenever I started pimping my decks, I try to find the "pimpest of the pimp" and then try to 1 up it. It's honestly way more inspiring for me to see a deck like this online, even if I know/don't know if that's how they really have it.

What about Pyramid of the Pantheon. It is like gilded lotus by turn 5 casting it anyway not including other ramp of course. Thoughts Guerte?

LTmiller: I'm still kinda iffy on if I want to leave it as is or change it back. In all honesty, it doesn't really matter much, but if it shows up as foil, that increases the price that is shown, and sometimes can deter people away, which is something I don't want to do. I'll have to think on it more.

Renkai: Not really too keen on Pyramid of the Pantheon. You spend seven mana to get a Gilded Lotus on the fourth turn after playing it. I'd rather invest my mana in something else to be honest. But, it may make a great substitute for one of the more expensive rocks.

Guerte it's all on you hoss, I just know what I personally prefer. :)

Guerte, great job with this deck. Just recently got most of these cards to play this!

LTmiller: I'll just keep it as is. Too much stuff to remove. Lol. Then I can look back at how it once was.

Darkmage0509: Thank you and welcome aboard the Scrap Train! Glad to have you!

Next weekend I'll be finally testing this deck so I'll see how it goes. It's become 1 of my 3 current Commander decks (Azami and Glissa). I'm a big fan of Stax, that's what I played in my Vintage days, so I'm eager to see if I'll be tempted to alter this deck towards more of a Welder Stax list. Always looking to make my decks more competitive and only cards I'm missing of your list are Recruiter, Workshop, and Bazaar, not spending $1,000 on a card lol but Recruiter will be my next card to get if this deck works out the way I'm expecting. Let you know how it works out if you're interested! Thanks again.

Darkmage0509 No joke though, just get the Bazaar. That thing is a MONSTER in this deck. I was so glad when I finally got mine. Whew son. You combine that thing with Alhammarret's Archive and Squee, Goblin Nabob and by golly you're on your way to ripping through your deck.

Side note though, you can just use Goblin Matron, it isn't quite as good because it can't find Metalworker, however Guerte has told me that he personally thinks the Imperial Recruiter is better/more important to get first, I however think the Bazaar is better. I got all of the really expensive cards for this all at once and it has by far done the most good for me.

Guerte sorry I've been away ;P Hey this way you always know what you have to do to make it pimper than ever.

Hello, i am from Uruguay, sorry for my bad english

Why not incluing Lion's Eye Diamond ?

Very pretty list, i play a similar list, but mishra workshop and bazar... is very expensive for mi :(

Sorry for the double post.I think a Lion's Eye Diamond is good for discarding and being able to revive something in the mid game, and help to use the ability of artifacts like planar bridge.

What do you think of Scroll Rack?

Thanks

Seen Mirrage Mirror yet?

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Angry_Fister Mirage mirror looks awesome for Daretti. Worst case it can turn into another rock. Question is what to drop?

I'd probably drop Mirrorworks. Mirage is much cheaper and more flexible because you can copy something in play.

Could you fix the primer images?

Sorry for being absent for so long. I will fix the images and answer everyone as soon as I get the time to do so.

I FB Messaged Guerte so he could fix the problems and answer some questions for everyone.

Personally, agree about dropping Mirrorworks.

Alright folks! The images should be working again. I had to change image hosts to a more reliable one (Imgur). If you see anything else amiss, please let me know!!!

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yesty13: LED I feel is better in the stax version of Daretti. I don't like the idea of losing my entire hand just getting Daretti out. And as far as Scroll Rack goes, it can be good to get rid of cards you don't want in hand, but unless you have a way at the ready to shuffle your deck, you're just going to draw them again. I don't plan on running it, but if you wish then by all means!

Angry_Fister/BPots6694/LTmiller: As far as Mirrorworks vs Mirage Mirror goes, I feel like they are very different cards. Mirage can copy things already in play, and gives you flexibility every turn for something you may want. However, it won't trigger ETB effects like Mirrorworks does, and whatever you create a copy of stays in play and can be used for Daretti/Welder fodder.

I'm not 100% sold on the card yet.

This deck is very very beatifull.

I play similar.. but scrap trawler out silent arbitrer in.

And dont have baazar and mishra and play a led and mountain jeje.

I thinks put ugin nexus or stranglehold for my friends deck, but i don know out for this deck.

Sorry for my bad english.

Guerte That's my problem with Mirage Mirror, my list is very tight as is and I think Mirrorworks is too good and can generate value if it can be used early on. I think that the mirror can have a place I'm just not sure where it'll fit in yet.

Is this mainly a 1v1 deck? Or does it perform well in multiplayer as well?