Homelessguy says... #2
SynergyBuild I like the wirewood idea. And I happen to have one, I think I'll slide it in and see how it goes tonight at the tournament.
I'm a little apprehensive with the decks ability to tutor the three creatures.
And the lack of trample makes me feel like I'll just be chump block. And yeah there's always next turn but in a combo heavy meta every turn counts.
The Cloudstone Curio on the other hand seems pretty dope. I'm going to get my hands on one and try that out.
August 31, 2018 12:31 p.m.
SynergyBuild says... #3
Thank you, also, Wirewood Symbiote also combos really well with a one-drop and Cloudstone Curio, as you bounce and elf to hand, untap Selvala, Explorer Returned, cast the elf to bounce the symbiote, cast the symbiote, say no to the Cloudstone Curio's may trigger, then bounce the elf again to untap Selvala, you can repeat this as many times as you want, given you get an average 2+ green mana off of Selvala.
August 31, 2018 1:21 p.m.
Under Setup -> Artifact Tutor, I think you meant Stoneforge Mystic and not Sunforge Mystic right?
September 1, 2018 10:28 p.m.
Homelessguy says... #5
Baah. my proofreading skill is garbage.
Thanks for pointing that out. I'll fix it right away.
September 1, 2018 10:48 p.m.
Upvoted for that perfect staircase curve! How good is Sevala's ability if you used a tri color commander? I want her in my Derevi list to abuse her tapping, but I can't imagine what I'd even do with all that green mana.
November 14, 2018 9:42 a.m.
Homelessguy says... #7
Dankey I think she would do extremely well as a drawn engine in that deck.
As for the extra Mana, I'm not sure.
November 14, 2018 2:29 p.m.
Homelessguy says... #9
AdNauseam12 never thought to include it making Manna has never been a problem.
I don't really think it needs it. I mean it definitely couldn't hurt I just don't think I would take anything out for it.
November 17, 2018 5:38 p.m.
AdNauseam12 says... #10
I would play crypt over sol ring any day especially in this deck when you are gaining so much life and when you have so many one drops
November 17, 2018 11:46 p.m.
Homelessguy says... #11
AdNauseam12 you're totally right.
I just feel sacrilegious to take out a sol Ring
November 18, 2018 3:03 a.m.
SynergyBuild says... #12
Llanowar Scout/Skyshroud Ranger is an easy drop for it. Sylvan Scrying, Canopy Cover, Privileged Position, and some others could be dropped. Fetchlands to increase consistency, and Silence/Autumn's Veil as interaction and this deck is great, but as is there isn't a ton of difference.
November 18, 2018 8:20 a.m.
Homelessguy says... #13
Took your advice and used some of the suggested cards. pulled a couple fetches,I had from other decks that didn't really use them the way this one could. And ordered the silence.
November 18, 2018 4:24 p.m.
SynergyBuild says... #14
I quite like using Autumn's and Silence in my own Selvala, I even run City of Solitude to reinforce that on combo-turn, my spells won't be countered or combo broken. I run Teferi's Protection as well, but our lists are a bit different. I run the same combos, sub the Illusionist's Bracers and added Staff of Domination and Sword of the Paruns, as well as less Selvala-centric cards, IE I don't run Well of Lost Dreams, because I want not to lose sight of the combo, and I also run some other infinite-mana outlets, with Duskwatch Recruiter Flip being a favorite.
A lot of the rest of our differences are quite simple, I lowered the CMC of my deck by dropping cards like Argothian Elder, Mana Reflection, Alhammarret's Archive, Nissa, Worldwaker, Privileged Position, Defense of the Heart, Skyshroud Claim, Tempt with Discovery, Well of Lost Dreams, Oracle of Mul Daya, Karametra's Acolyte, Ezuri, Renegade Leader and a few other mana dumps like Elixir of Immortality in place of tutors like Sylvan Tutor, Chord of Calling, Inventors' Fair, Survival of the Fittest, Yisan, the Wanderer Bard, Fierce Empath, Woodland Bellower, as well as ramp like Sol Ring, Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Boreal Druid, Avacyn's Pilgrim, and card draw like Sylvan Library.
I can write up the list and send it to you if you want, it fits at around tier 2.5, and is a fast-acting, 'Dumbstorm' (gives opponents cards to get itself cards) combo-list, with high-amounts of interaction, extremely low curve, tons of tutors and consistency, and is unexpected in high-tiered tables.
November 18, 2018 5:59 p.m.
The only argument I can concieve against sol ring and mana crypt (the madnesa) would involve addressing your gameplan on the first 3 or 4 turns. If your plan is to simply ramp on turns 1 and 2, then obviously running all efficient artifact ramp possible is justified.
November 18, 2018 7:15 p.m.
Homelessguy says... #16
First of all seriously thanks for all the feedback. A couple of the cards I like for the combos in the deck and some others are meta choices like the privileged position. We've got five different zur decks. Three of them doomsday combo the other 2 control.
But like the suggestion for Solitude and Chord of Calling. The archive is probably going to be taken out to make way for the staff. I think I was just going out of my way to use different cards than what's in my mono green Selvala build. Also Sylvan Library I guess never occurred to me like at all.
And don't worry about having to write up a list I just clicked your name and check out your list.
November 18, 2018 7:16 p.m.
Homelessguy says... #17
Dankey Yeah, pretty much. I mean I'm trying to put out as many elves as I can as well but the ramp does that.
November 18, 2018 7:25 p.m.
SynergyBuild says... #18
Actually, that list you found wasn't the combo one I referred to. That is a stax-combo list. A dumbstorm list attempts to go off immediately, not be a control deck. I would have to write up the varient I run IRL.
November 18, 2018 9:15 p.m.
SynergyBuild says... #19
BTW when I say dumbstorm, I am no way implying the deck is bad, simply counter-intuitive, because tapping Selvala is negative card advantage by giving your opponents cards.
November 18, 2018 9:16 p.m.
Homelessguy says... #20
Then yes absolutely I would love to get a write-up of that list.
November 18, 2018 10 p.m.
SynergyBuild says... #21
Sure. Also, after looking through this list again, no Nature's Chosen?
November 19, 2018 8:48 a.m.
SynergyBuild says... #22
The Dumbest Storm Deck (cEDH) is the list that I think is my deck, it could be a little off.
November 19, 2018 9:02 a.m.
Homelessguy says... #23
Nature's chosen is weird,I can't find one. nobody has one for trade and when I go buy cards, I end up paying for expensive ones and not having the money for it.
I mean I just bought Silence Solitude and Sylvan Library plus lands. And now I got to wait a couple weeks before pick up anything else.
I do the same thing with a couple other cards I need. I've built a full deck and I just keep forgetting to get the commander.
November 19, 2018 10:53 a.m.
Homelessguy says... #24
Again thanks for doing this. Found good amount of cards to pick up. I'm waiting on cards now that should be here before Friday. But sometime during the week I'll sit down with the deck and go over what I'm taking out. The archive is definitely coming out and probably the well. I got to find places for at least Noxious Revival and Sylvan Tutor.
Also survival of the fittest but more than anything the Revival. I've played it locally enough that people hold up counterspells for my artifacts.
November 19, 2018 11:01 a.m.
SynergyBuild says... #25
No problem, I love Selvala the most, happy to help.
SynergyBuild says... #1
Also, Wirewood Symbiote could be amazing, untapping Selvala, going infinite with Mirror Entity & Priest of Titania (tap Priest for 3, pay 1 to Mirror Entity to make the Symbiote an Elf, bounce Symbiote to hand with its own ability, cast it for 1, rinse and repeat, making infinite green mana you can dump into Mirror Entity to swing and kill!)
August 31, 2018 11:58 a.m.