I hate Hall of Triumph in this deck. creatures arent your win con. I think you should replace them with Shrieking Affliction for sure. I also prefer Desecration Demon over Master of the Feast because he is not giving them extra cards and he can force them into sacking what few creatures you havent made them discard.

Really loving this deck. Can't wait to try out my own version of it when the cards are all in. Probably going to be playing it next week. Recycling for the Living Impaired

I would definitely think about adding in some more removal here, as well as Shrieking Affliction . You have too many creatures to run Drown in Sorrow but some Doom Blade or Bile Blight or just a couple more downfalls would do a ton of work. I also would cut Hall of Triumph out. I don't really think you want your creatures to win the game for you. Possibly replace them with Sign in Blood which has the dual option of either drawing you cards, or making your discard spells relevant late game.

does waste not trigger if say a creature dies so a creature card enters the graveyard? im assuming not!

Waste Not triggers only from the hand.

How's Liliana doing? I was thinking about putting 2 in my deck... I also wasn't going to play Drainpipe Vermin , will this have a big impact? How is your life total doing? Would a Corrupt in the sideboard be worth it if you only play swamps? (I lack mutavaults and i can maybe get a friend's shrine of nykthos. Everything else looks great, looking forward to my "waste not"s in the mail :D

One thing I forgot to mention: Liliana's Reaver . Did you consider it? If yes, why not use it?

Disciple of Phenax seems pretty good here.

Have you thought about adding blue, or even going grixis for this? I think waste not is an awesome card, and Rakdos's return would be awesome with it, and so would whispering madness ciphered onto master of the feast.

"Do you really wanna party with me?

Let me see just what you got for me

Put all your hands where my eyes can see

Straight buckwhylin in the place to be"

Should rename this "Put all your hands where my eyes can see" =-P Shout out to Busta Rhymes

Looks like a really frustrating deck to play against but I was reading your logic when it comes to Shrieking Affliction and I'd like to point out that the same logic applies to Waste Not . If anything, Shrieking Affliction would be a great way to pull out the removal that's going to hit your more utility-packed Waste Not . Also, not all decks are mainboarding or even sideboarding infinite enchantment hate so two triggers off of Shrieking Affliction is a realistic thing to expect and would probably be enough value to include it right there.

In order for them to deal with Shrieking Affliction they have to use a card which basically means that they get the choice between eating 3 damage or discarding an enchantment hate card (assuming your deck is doing what it needs to do and also assuming they even have access to the enchantment hate to begin with).

I'm hoping I've communicated the idea well, let me know if I talk in circles too much to be understood haha

Hope this helps! .

@byepolarbear: I absolutely understand - and I have to admit I am extremely back-and-forth on this one. I am currently thinking that putting 2 or 3 Shrieking Affliction into the sideboard and bringing them in game 2 may be good.

i definitely think you should keep the Master of the Feast but Hall of Triumph doesn't really seem to fit

I would probably swap around Shrieking Affliction and Stain the Mind . Main board the thing that you know is going to get you value if your deck does what it's supposed to do and sideboard the thing that helps you snipe cards you can't deal with. Against something like Aggro Stain the Mind is going to be by far the worst card in your deck which is unfortunate because there are a ton of aggro decks floating around right now whereas in most matchups Shrieking Affliction will probably be helpful.

I'm not saying Shrieking Affliction is a must-mainboard card, I think it's a fine card against aggro and midrange because in a sense against decks with no card draw it either slows them down or accelerates your gameplan, but I do feel that Stain the Mind screams sideboard =-)

also i think you should take out the Drainpipe Vermin for some Shrieking Affliction

Done! I have added the Shrieking Affliction to mainboard, and removed Drainpipe Vermin and went down to 2 Stain the Mind . Let's see how it goes...

I would probably move the Stain the Mind s to the side board for the reason you mentioned in the description. I would replace them with 2x Rakdos's Return and add 4x Temple of Malice (because why not scry?) and 2x Blood Crypt which should be enough red to run them

I might also recommend moving out the Indulgent Tormentor for another Liliana Vess just because of the ridiculous synergy, but I don't know if you would suffer from subtracting your creature base.

In general I'm not too impressed with Indulgent Tormentor TBH. Gives too many outs for the opponent. It's all value every time but there are enough options that your opponent can just choose the least annoying of them. More importantly though it dies to basically every piece of removal in the set. From Lightning Strike to Hero's Downfall to Ulcerate . Creatures with 3 toughness or less all fall into this unfortunate position but either they don't cost much or they have very strong abilities that have an immediate effect on the game. Indulgent Tormentor doesn't though. They even get an entire turn to kill him before the ability triggers. Another Liliana Vess would probably help you more than Indulgent Tormentor .

Perhaps -2 Hall of Triumph -1 Indulgent Tormentor for +1 Master of the Feast +1 Desecration Demon +1 Liliana Vess ?

Was just playtesting the deck and I noticed there's about 4 too few copies of Sign in Blood =-)

Why no Disciple of Phenax ? Its a thoughtseize that can block and in some rare cases even attack

correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't Duress illegal in standard format being that it's a M14 card? not sure of the exact date M14 is being/was dropped from the rotation.

M14, Return to Ravnica, Gatecrash and Dragon's Maze are all legal until the Khans arrive in late September. At least Thoughtseize is still sticking around... but I'll miss some others.

@millFTW97: Disciple of Phenax is good (even gets lands), but the 4-drop slot is precious in this build and I think the Desecration Demon is more likely to win at that point. If the deck performs correctly, by the time you're casting 4-drops they either don't have a hand... or don't have a hand that matters.

Hall of Triumph is on the chopping block - does anyone actually agree with me that it is useful here?

-2 halls and +1 Shrieking Affliction and +1 Liliana Vess

Plus 1 :) I would like to see pack rats instead of shrieking affliction. Also more mutavaults if that's the case haha!