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Commander / EDH tlk_lone_knight

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meecht says... #1

Sakashima the Impostor has been pretty cool in my build. It can copy Nekusar without running into the Legend Rule.

December 16, 2013 12:38 p.m.

@meecht thats very interesting

December 16, 2013 12:43 p.m.

@Jarrheadd0 plus technically Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind goes truely infinite with Helm of the Ghastlord

December 16, 2013 5:57 p.m.

Gork_Mork says... #4

I just noticed you took out Cruel Ultimatum for Bident of Thassa Why would you do such a thing? I'm really curious to know.

December 16, 2013 8:17 p.m.

honestly not sure myself lol, must have done it one night while i was at work not paying much attention to waht i was doing

December 17, 2013 1:27 a.m.

LittleBigMak says... #6

December 17, 2013 6:41 p.m.

@LittleBigMak personal preferance. Jace Beleren is nice dont get me wrong just personally perfer Jace, Memory Adept . Jace Beleren ramps faster sence he is +2 where Jace, Memory Adept is only a +1, Jace, Memory Adept lets me have the only card advantage and alows me to burn 10 off and opponite if i wish however his -7 is extreamly deadly if u have any of ur drawing damage's out there or to use it then a wheel effect, when Jace Beleren i would only get advantage out of his +2.

December 17, 2013 6:46 p.m.

meecht says... #8

I fail to see how Jace, Memory Adept lets you burn an opponent for 10. Karador, Ghost Chieftain and The Mimeoplasm welcome you to fill their graveyard.

Jace Beleren isn't seen as a threat so he is very likely to stick around for several turns. In EDH, you don't play a Planeswalker for their ultimate (outside of Doubling Season decks, anyway), but for their other abilities because those are what you will most likely get to use.

What purpose do the Swords actually serve? You shouldn't be winning through combat damage. You will likely get more bonus out of Geth's Grimoire and Notion Thief or Whispering Madness . With Notion Thief, though, you would need a sac outlet like High Market and/or Miren, the Moaning Well , but those aren't bad choices without Thief because they prevent Nekusar from being copied.

December 18, 2013 12:35 a.m.

Whispering Madness was lack luster, the cipher just nvr seamed to be worth trying to swing with.

and i hate that everyone points out one or two cards that are going to assist a specific type of deck, yes Jace, Memory Adept will fill there graveyard and yes those 2 commanders would want that but do u really exspect me to not have a couple of cards that are gonna be benificial for my opponites? next your gonna tell me that Gauntlet of Power are a bad card because it helps ur opponites

December 18, 2013 10:11 a.m.

meecht says... #10

Every color has access to some form of graveyard recursion, and by milling your opponent(s) you are giving them a resource that Nekusar does not interact with. You could squeeze in Duskmantle Guildmage to at least take advantage of the milling and wheeling effects.

If you want to keep Jace, Memory Adept , though, include some kind of graveyard exile effect to minimize the use of recursion and the shuffle effect of Eldrazi (namely Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre and Kozilek, Butcher of Truth ). I would recommend Rakdos Charm because the "destroy artifact" mode is always relevant, the damage is useful against token strategies, and the targeted graveyard exile prevents recursion.

December 18, 2013 10:50 a.m.

i refuse to use Eldrazi, it is a personal thing. personally i feel as though you are attempting to make this more compeative than i am, i do not personally run into much recursion in my local meta.

December 18, 2013 11:38 a.m.

meecht says... #12

I wasn't referring to YOUR use of Eldrazi, but your opponent's. If recursion and Eldrazi aren't an issue in your group, then don't worry about graveyard exile.

A deck doesn't have to be competitive to have synergy. My suggestions were merely cards that I feel have better synergy with your general and the overall theme of the deck. I highly recommend you at least squeeze in Geth's Grimoire , though. Depending on the size of your games (mine usually have 3-4 people), you can easily draw an extra 7-21 cards per wheel. You could probably use it instead of Gem of Becoming because the extra cards and constant wheeling will help you hit your land drops.

December 18, 2013 noon

that sir is a fair arguement, the only down side is how fast i will be burning threw my cards, all it would take is one exile of my graveyard to really screw me, if i put in Geth's Grimoire ill have to find room for Laboratory Maniac

December 18, 2013 12:05 p.m.

meecht says... #14

Geth's Grimoire is a "may" trigger, so you can choose to draw any amount up to the max. If you included Laboratory Maniac , you would further need a way to flash him and protect him from spot removal. That's a lot of support to squeeze in.

December 18, 2013 12:23 p.m.

pudgeep says... #15

December 19, 2013 9:53 p.m.

Wheel of Fate if just have to have that other---other---other version of Wheel of Fortune

December 19, 2013 10:17 p.m.

oakenshild says... #17

holy cow! I didn't even realize that it is the same wheel on both of those cards. Man magic has got some great artists.

Back on topic. I just realized that you have zero counter spells. May I ask why, because I believe you should have at least a couple. Noting feels better than using a Spell Crumple or Hinder on some ones general.

December 20, 2013 12:59 a.m.

Matt_The_OGRE says... #18

How about Anvil of Bogardan

December 20, 2013 2:53 p.m.

@oakenshild im not playing control in any way shape or real form in my eyes, i will not be putting counters into this deck.

December 22, 2013 10:26 a.m.

calderstrake says... #20

Hi again. I see you have updated your deck, but I'm not sure you will have enough lands with only 34.

Please check out Raze Your Mind for some inspiration and feel free to leave comments.

I agree that Anvil of Bogardan is a must include for this deck. The problem is the high number of include cards and cutting the list down to the most effective can really prove to be challenging. For example, Cruel Ultimatum is a powerful card and on-theme, but it just isn't realistic as an include if you want to win consistently. Games that I win with this deck couldn't possibly use that card because Prosperity for 7 wins out instead of just taking out a single player.

December 22, 2013 11:36 a.m.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/nekusars-house-party-1/ I love your build so please help me out and same with anyone else who can help out :)

December 22, 2013 3:18 p.m.
December 22, 2013 3:42 p.m.

Jarrheadd0 says... #23

@tlk_lone_knight You're playing a Nekusar deck and you don't think you're playing control in any way, shape, or form?

December 23, 2013 2:15 a.m.

Gork_Mork says... #24

@tlk_lone_knight Have you ever thought about adding Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar ? With Teferi's Puzzle Box you'd be going almost for exactly what you need. It would make your draw step really long, but you would get a lot of options going, especially in a deck like this.

December 23, 2013 10:04 a.m.

@Gork_Mork - That would get hate aggro immediately...I love it!!!

I agree with Anvil of Bogardan . I am going to run one in my deck. If your running Megrim tricks, it forces them coming and going. That with a Bottomless Pit or Necrogen Mists . Yes I know it changes the "theme", but it's a combo that will help a deck like this be successful. Even if it only resolves for a full turn or two.

Anyone think of Iron Maiden ? I am gonna drop one in my deck and see how I like it.

December 23, 2013 10:42 a.m.

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