view on useing Possibility Storm

Lets say you're in a 4-person game and have Hive Mind on the field. You cast Winds of Change . Your opponents each copy that spell in turn order, with the topmost (and, therefore, first to resolve) copy belonging to the person on your right. The group would go through 4 resolutions of Winds of Change .

I considered Possibility Storm in my own build, but decided against it. You will likely cast a wheel effect only to storm into another wheel effect, or one artifact into a similar artifact. It's best used to try cheating expensive spells/creatures by casting cheaper ones.

I keep bugging you about this, but have you tested Geth's Grimoire yet? It's probably the card I am most happy to see when I draw it, and it's been a very unexpected part of my game wins.

To give an example from last week: I had Grimoire and Psychosis Crawler on the field, cast Wheel and Deal , drew 15 cards (14 from discards + 1 draw) and drain 15 life, cast Windfall , drew 29 cards to drain my opponents for lethal. One of my opponents actually said, "Why is that card so good? It should not be that good."

i have not yet tested it my friend, i agree it is a great card however idk if i have enough discard effects to deam that as useful as it should be

It doesn't trigger on just your discard effects. With Forced Fruition , they may have to discard down to their maximum hand size, which lets you draw that many cards. If a green player is using Greater Good , Survival of the Fittest , or Fauna Shaman , you get to draw when they discard.

Helm of the Ghastlord on Nekusar? You get to draw 2 for every card they draw.

Anvil of Bogardan out? You get to draw a card when they discard.

I can understand your reluctance, though, because it doesn't seem that good at first glance. However, the first time you draw 28+ cards from a single Wheel of Fortune , you'll be hooked on the amount of card advantage it can generate.

Something else to consider is Torpor Orb . It's stupid how many decks come to a screeching halt when you drop it Turn 2, but it does almost nothing against you because you only have one creature with an ETB effect.

and what would u remove for the Torpor Orb and Geth's Grimoire ?

I'd say some combination of:

Gem of Becoming - you'll be wheeling enough to make your land drops.

Propaganda and/or Crawlspace - meta call, depends on if your meta is full of swarm-type strategies or single beaters.

Whip of Erebos and/or Phyrexian Reclamation - only 14 creatures doesn't seem like enough to warrant creature recursion. If you like the lifegain from Whip, I've been happy with Basilisk Collar .

i went ahead and took out Crawlspace and the Phyrexian Reclamation

Looks good to me!

My group meets tonight, so if I have any crazy plays, I'll share them!

please do! i enjoy hearing how things combo, i dont always see how things interact.

@meecht the best part of Gem of Becoming isnt because of the wheel effecks that you are missing your land drops but it lets u mana fix for later plays in your hand, because it doesnt specify basic lands you are able to go lands such as Blood Crypt , Watery Grave and Steam Vents

plus Volrath's Stronghold is way better than Phyrexian Reclamation no life required XD

My point on Gem of Becoming was that you'll wheel enough to become mana fixed, anyway.

I don't use it in my build and I rarely have mana issues, but I also use the filter lands from Shadowmoor (Cascade Bluffs , Sunken Ruins , Graven Cairns ).

i thought about useing those however in my eyes just gives me one more slot to put something else in, maybe Mirari

How about Vedalken Orrery ?

how would that help me?

Lets you flash in creatures, enchantments, and artifacts, as well as cast wheels at instant speed.

If you don't like it, though, how about Memory Jar ?

i personally think that Mirari would be better because it alows me to pay 3 colorless more for a double wheel effect

You only have 11 effects worth copying, but I guess it's worth testing.

Again, Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar is pretty amazing in Nekusar decks.

Urza's Guilt is strong in your deck, too.

Wanted to share how I won a game last night:

I was at 3 life with Nekusar and Dragon Mage on the field. I cast Megrim and Memory Jar . Swing with Dragon Mage, opponents take 2 damage for each discarded card (0 for one opponent and 12 for the other) and 7 for drawing (7 and 18 damage now). Activate Memory Jar, opponents take 7 for drawing (14 and 25 damage), then end my turn. Everyone discards their hands, and each opponent takes 14 more damage. I did 7 + 7 + 14 = 28 damage to each opponent, plus an additional 12 to another, in a single turn. That's not counting the damage from Dragon Mage.

as i have pulled the deck apart and looked, there are honestly very little damage on draw effects. any ideas

Spiteful Visions is basically Nekusar on an enchantment, but you'll have to watch your own damage, too.

There aren't a lot of on-draw pain effects which is why I have some beefy creatures to beat face with, and a few infinite combos to fall back on.

yeah im not running Spiteful Visions because of the fact that i have to watch my damage lol, imma be getting hit hard anyway.

id like to find a place for Basilisk Collar and Laboratory Maniac or Sire Of Insanity

Painful Quandary may this too.