you're correct about Hive Mind .

Viseling is bad too many conditions, not enough damage. Arcane Melee helps your opponents too much. Helm of the Ghastlord means you should be running Deathbringer Thoctar

Opportunity just costs more than I'd be willing to pay, and the instant speed/target abilities don't add enough benefit for my taste, I'd rather see Forced Fruition come out of the maybeboard and into the deck. Vampire Nighthawk neat, kinda good, not great. toss in a Basilisk Collar or Loxodon Warhammer if you wanna gain life. slapping either of those on your general and then telling people to draw 7 is just brutal, especially in multiplayer.

Not sure how useful Guttersnipe is, I'd prefer to see something that discourages people from hitting you, or protects your general. Try out a Clout of the Dominus ; make your general a 4/6 with shroud and haste? Yes please.

Lightning Greaves . It's in the maybeboard, get it in the deck. That 0 cost equip is just beautiful.

Also, I'd replace Syncopate with Disperse just because there isn't the chance of them just paying the mana. Vision Skeins ? Cute, but there's a reason most people hit themselves with a Sign in Blood one card is easily worth one life. In fact, according to everyone who plays Greed (wonderful card by the way) it's worth 2 life, and one mana! Same thing with Arcane Denial except you only draw one card. It's just not worth it! If you can make them draw 7? absolutely. 2? no thanks.

I just hate Phthisis . Other than having a fun name to say, it's either over-cost or ill-timed, it's just no good.

consider running Expedition Map alongside (or maybe in place of) Wayfarer's Bauble . It may not go straight to the field, but hey, it is any land, not just basics.

I want to see a Whispersilk Cloak in here! shroud, and unblockable?! Why not!!! Especially if you want to shoot for some actual general damage, or using Diviner Spirit to take away the choice of blocking it!

wow, thanks for the help.

there are a few thing in here I am planning on swapping in that you suggested, like the Forced Fruition , Basilisk Collar and Lightning Greaves , its just a matter of time and finding the cards.

I really like the Helm of the Ghastlord and Deathbringer Thoctar combo and I'll see if i can find one of those guys. Viseling is coming out as soon I can find a replacement that I like, but I kind of enjoy Arcane Melee because it brings all of my instant and sorcery bombs down to a manageable cmc and adds 2 to my Prosperity and Skyscribing , I'll think about taking it out though.

I'll look into getting a Clout of the Dominus and Loxodon Warhammer cause they seam like a tone of fun and the Expedition Map could be great.

I actualy have a Whispersilk Cloak and I'm not sure why I haven thought of putting that in yet...

the Vampire Nighthawk is more in there as incentive not to attack into me, but i suppose that Deathbringer Thoctar + Basilisk Collar works pretty good too.

which is better between Arcane Denial and Dream Fracture , or should they both just come out. I kind of like them just because they are a counter spell + damage and card draw for me as well, but I also have Rewind and Spell Crumple lying around and that might go in.

I have also been thinking about putting in Wound Reflection for shenanigans with Havoc Festival .

and lastly do you think it's worth putting in a Fabricate ?

thanks for the help again.

Fabricate is one of my favorite cards, seeing as I am quite fond of artifacts, especially if you get Teferi's Puzzle Box into the deck, that's a big card to search for. That being said, Fabricate is strictly inferior to the black cards that tutor for anything, such as even Diabolic Tutor . (and is especially worse than Demonic Tutor which even costs less to play.) While I would run a Fabricate perhaps a wiser player would not, and one who is wiser still would likely run a better tutor. perhaps Diabolic Intent or if you find yourself in games with a great deal of mana and not much else to do, you may wish to try your luck with a Diabolic Revelation . I've had a couple games where I've tutored for upwards of 5 cards with it before, basically choosing the hand I wanted to play with next turn. (obviously this doesn't work well if you've got a Teferi's Puzzle Box on the field...)

I think you should have a Spell Crumple in the deck, because it's a lot harder to find things in a big deck than it is in the graveyard, and it's even better as far as countering someone's general, because it doesn't just slow it down, it can get rid of it for quite some time. I like Dream Fracture a little more than Arcane Denial but to be honest, I'd prefer a straight Cancel or Counterspell . Rewind is a wonderful counter, especially if you have a land that taps for two on the field. Foil is another one to consider as well.

In line with giving your general lifelink or an equivalent ability (which in this case stacks with lifelink) you may want to look into Vampiric Link . It basically gives the enchanted creature lifelink, without saying that, so you can technically stack the two abilities. (or, failing that, you can enchant an opponent's creature, so that it does no good to hit you with it, and it helps you when they hit other people with it!)

Another tutor to consider: Mystical Tutor . Yeah, you can only get instants and sorcerys with it. But at the same time, it's a one cost, and at instant speed, not to mention some of the most powerful cards in these deck colors are instants and sorcerys.

I am on a bit of a budget right now so the good tutors are gonna have to wait for now.

haha, Diabolic Revelation is another one of those cards that I have lying a round. I was never sure whether it was cost effective or not. Having played standard for a long time it seemed more expensive than it was worth and I had forgotten all about it, but having played EDH now, I can see the value. Diabolic Tutor seams like a great card, I could even Diabolic Tutor for Diabolic Revelation if need be.

just curios why you think Dream Fracture is better than Arcane Denial . I would have thought it the other way around after all Arcane Denial is one less mana and I nets me an extra point of commander damage.

Vampiric Link like looks hilarious. I will try to grab one of those as soon as possible. man that is a great card.

I also edited the deck based on what I think I can get reasonably soon.

man I just cant get over that Vampiric Link . now if there were cards that made it so that I cant discard cards I would be set... oh what about Tamiyo, the Moon Sage ?

General damage is only when the commander deals combat damage to an opponent. You do not get to count damage dealt by the abilities of a general. Also, the one mana is fairly insignificant, while that card could be the difference between your general dying this turn, or next turn when you're more likely to have a counter. With that in mind 2 regular damage isn't worth the same as 2 card draw. If you did that to me, I'd be peeved about losing a spell, but glad to take the draw for damage. Hinder would probably be better

So let me be clear I don't like them drawing cards. At all. However, things that cycle through their hands can cause them harm without giving them a great benefit, which is great, and something that makes them draw a LOT of cards starts to gain its benefit back.

more cards to consider: Kederekt Parasite , Psychosis Crawler . Both for quite obvious reasons. Tamiyo, the Moon Sage gives me mixed feelings. The draw can be fantastic, but it only works against a lot of creatures. If you play games with lots of players more often than you play one-on-one, then it's a great addition to the deck. Otherwise, it may not be worth it. (you will almost never get to that -8 ability, so don't base your opinion of the card on it.)

ok, i can see your point. hmmm... that's to bad a bout abilities not dealing commander damage, that really changes the value of those cards.

I'll look in to getting Kederekt Parasite and Psychosis Crawler .

i am also wondering if i should add the Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind + Curiosity or Ophidian Eye combo, just a s another win con.

Curiosity Ophidian Eye and Tandem Lookout would make good additions, because they work with your general. Adding niv-mizzet isn't a bad choice,

Helm of the Ghastlord is awesome have you thought about Curiosity , Tandem Lookout , and Ophidian Eye ?

Ya, Helm of the Ghastlord is hilarious if you can get it to stick.

I don't really like Tandem Lookout because it is a creature and is easily removed, but Ophidian eye and Curiosity could have a place in here, I just wouldn't know what to take out. Perhaps Price of Knowledge or Barter in Blood , maybe even the Psychosis Crawler because he dies when ever I use a wheel effect. im just not sure if the extra card draw will be worth it though.

Deathbringer Thoctar and Leyline of the Void seem to be the best cards to take out.

hmm, I originally had Deathbringer Thoctar in to combo with the Basilisk Collar or Helm of the Ghastlord but the combo has proven to be fairly flimsy and in consistent, plus I would almost always prefer those cards on my commander.

Leyline of the Void can be really powerfull though, especially with decks that have heavy graveyard interactions, like Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord .

perhaps Elder Mastery or Price of Knowledge as they are both over priced for what they do.

Yeah Price of Knowledge was always a bit underwhelming.

Correct me if I am wrong but you have Library of Leng and Teferi's Puzzle Box down as a fun combo.Since Teferi's Puzzle Box isn't exactly a "discard" efect but rather says "puts those cards on the bottom of his or her library" I do not believe Library of Leng would allow you to put those cards on the top of your library instead of the bottom. Not that it really matters since Teferi's Puzzle Box is still a massively awesome card, and if you have Archmage Ascension fully charged, the top or bottom of your library makes no difference. Nice deck though +1'd

I didn't even notice that one. I have been illegally stacking my deck with the Library of Leng and Teferi's Puzzle Box much to the disgruntlement of my local play group. They will be thrilled see that combo disappear. The library does combo with all of the other wheel effects though and is a vital part of the deck's composition.

Archmage Ascension is a great card, I just wish it didn't take so long to charge up.

Thanks for the plus one!

Yeah I ordered Library of Leng and Teferi's Puzzle Box and a bunch of other cards recently and read the cards more closely after I got them, and realized that they wouldn't work together. Would have been really cool if they did, but I agree that the library is still a necessary part of the deck. You aren't always gonna have Teferi's Puzzle Box out and the library helps so much with the wheel effects. You're right that Archmage Ascension takes too long to charge up, but it's understandable. Tutoring for multiple cards a turn is very powerful, it can't happen too soon.