Shadow of Doubt , Vendilion Clique , Damnation , Cryptic Command .

All very good cards.

That being said it's not really feedback. I'm aware all of those cards exist.

I like the disruption that Vendilion Clique creates. I could see it competing for Xathrid Necromancer s spot.

Damnation hurts me just as much as it hurts my opponent. It seems a turn too slow against Robots and I feel like my spot removal can mop up most of what Zoo is going to throw at me. Pod and Twin are hit hard by it, but I think it can easily be played around.

Shadow of Doubt probably has a spot here, at least in the sideboard. It seems like unnecessary trickery though. I'd mostly find myself using it against Pod or to hose people's fetchlands. Not that those are bad uses.

Cryptic Command has been getting rave reviews from tempo players as well as control players. I see it competing for slots with my Blightning s but I also see that as removing an essential source of damage for me. That being said I could probably squeeze two in there. Just have to track them down.

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I tested Of Plague & Persecution against this deck, hence the question about keeping a hand without Smallpox . You kept a land with Treetop Village , Verdant Catacombs , Overgrown Tomb , Liliana of the Veil , 2x Abrupt Decay and a Damnation . I had 4 lands, a delver a Mana Leak and a Go for the Throat .

Anyway...it took a long time but I beat you. I need to work on playing Smallpox more skillfully I think. You said right in your description it's a challenge to do properly. I think I made a mistake letting the draw through from Browbeat when you were at 14 life, and even with drawing a Smallpox and a Maelstrom Pulse you couldn't keep me off. You drew into another Treetop Village and then got stuck on four lands so that played into it too. Couldn't cast the Damnation or the Abyssal Persecutor that you drew.

That's just one game in a vacuum though, I really enjoy that deck. I'd +1 it again if I could.

Awesome man, let me know if u play any more matches. Would love to hear how they go!

Definitely.

If it helps for future testing, I would have kept that exact hand & I wouldn't have let u get the cards from Bowbeat, would have taken 5 to the face. Especially at 14. I view life as an expandable commodity not a total to focus on. If it'll put u at advantage or prevent your opponent from gaining a significant advantage then spend it! :)

I hear you, all you need is one life to win.

I immediately knew it was a mistake when I made the choice to let it resolve. Resource denial doesn't lend itself to giving me cards. Derp.

i pioleted your deck against one of my decks it did quite well winning game 2 but my deck won in the end you would do very well form like 2 Cryptic Command otherwise its great heres my deck Snapcaster Rock hybrid good luck your deck is very fun to play

Ive heard that a lot so far, and I'm starting to think I agree. What would you consider as expendable in exchange for the Commands?

Snapcaster Rock is another archetype I've considered building but I don't own the goyfs or bobs and only have one Lili. Kind of hard to build it without them though...I played a couple games against your deck and I won the best of three. You got mana flooded one game though so it kind of tosses it out.

Did you test the deck before or after I added Civilized Scholar  ^Flip ? If it was after, did it factor into any of your games?

I played with Civilized Scholar  ^Flip but he got killed the moment i attacked with him. as for cryptic command i would recommend cutting a Thatcher Revolt simply because it does not seem to be a staple card in the deck

on another note, are there any changes you think i should make to my deck?

I'm going to play test some more and I'll let you know.

Browbeat is very poor, and I don't think Extraction is a maindeckable card. MOAR Treasure Cruise s!

Browbeat is almost always 5 damage for 3 mana. When it's not, I get three cards. In a deck that needs help racing, the advantage it provides is huge. That being said, I'm not super attached to it.

I love Surgical Extraction . It is probably possible to move it to the sideboard though.

What do you think about my land count?

Playing 22 will be safer.

Browbeat gives your opponent options, and will always be the worse of the two options. Why let your opponent pick when you can just draw 3?

The way I see Browbeat is that both options are good pretty much always, so you can't really go wrong. It's true I'm looking for the damage, but if I get three cards I'm happy with that usually.

I'd still rather be casting a guaranteed draw-3 for less mana. Do not underestimate the Treasure Cruise . Casting it is never hard.

if your going to run Treasure Cruise Snapcaster Mage is almost useless so i would cut him for the Treasure Cruise if your going to run it

Dismember and Slaughter Pact are very strong. Four Remand is mandatory. More Electrolyze will be solid. Cryptic Command is, believe it or not, not that necessary.

I'd go +1-2 Dismember , + 1-2 Slaughter Pact , +2 Remand , + 1-2 Electrolyze , -1 Civilized Scholar  ^Flip , -2 Falkenrath Aristocrat ], -2 Surgical Extraction , - 0-1 Terminate , - 0-1 Cryptic Command , -1 Go for the Throat .

Terminate and Go for the Throat kills the boogieman that gives this deck problems. Tarmogoyf . Dismember doesn't always do that. The nonblack restriction on Slaughter Pact makes me wary, but I like free spells. I'll consider it, but I don't currently own any.

In early testing it seems like Treasure Cruise might be best as a singleton. It has a huge demand for cards to exile and drawing more than one hasn't been good in this deck so far.

Play more fetches. Any Delver deck should be playing at least 10, because Treasure Cruise is incredibly powerful in your deck and you want to maximize it.

Hey scrotality, can you have a look at this? It started out with the same idea as your meta-breaker deck, and then I seem to have lost focus. I think I want to get away from Delver as a backdrop and play more discard/control...what are your thoughts?

i would consider replacing:

Mana Leak -> Spell Snare and/or Spell Pierce
Go for the Throat, Terminate -> Murderous Cut, Slaughter Pact, and/or Victim of Night1x Remand -> 1x Thoughtseize

for creatures... I'm not really sure. i see what you mean. keranos and aristocrat don't seem like the best fit. but i might be off, as i haven't really played either one competitively.

Civilized Scholar  ^Flip is awesome, lol. very janky. i dig it. a more appropriate/synergistic (fuck i hate that word) card might be Gelectrode. its kind of a convulsing delver, lol.

for hand control.. Raven's Crime is pretty sick. especially late game, i think. and of course Despise and Inquisition of Kozilek.

thats all i can think of off of the top of my head for now.. but ill keep thinking about it :D

So I switched the Mana Leak for IoK, cut the Aristocrats, Civilized Scholar  ^Flip and one Terminate for a couple Slaughter Pacts, the fourth Thoughtseize and a Batterskull.

I like the jankiness of Civilized Scholar  ^Flip in a removal heavy deck, but its only useful if I can pitch a creature and go on the attack. Gelectrode would be funny, but I feel like it would be one of those cards I'd almost always hold in my hand until I have 3 mana laying around. Doesn't make me jump out and want to play it, although I could be looking at it wrong.

I like doing rather than waiting, so I went away from the counterspells. I may still cut the Remands for something a little different, but hand disruption fits me better. Especially with Surgical Extraction. Maybe I'll cut one remand for another extraction.

I like Falkenrath Aristocrat but it always seemed like too little too late. My Pyromancers, Delvers, Snapcasters and Scholar didn't like being vampire food for a very blockable 4/1, even if it does have haste.