UmbrotheUmbreon...I would love to watch matches where you top deck your Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger :)

And yes, please feel free to copy it and change it any way you see fit. That is what brewing is all about. Make it your own! There are so many players out there that want to play the most budget friendly version of decks and that should most certainly be available. That, and you can take out the cards you don't like :)

We did have two Panoptic Mirror s in the build for numerous games; however we found that often times by the time you had the mana and the card to run the lock; you ended up having one you didn't really need. This deck draws more than it appears (between the Explore 's, the extra turns, and utilizing Chandra, Pyromaster 's "0" ability) so you can get to cards pretty quickly...and seeing as how turn 3 is the earliest we need to have this card; a one-of seemed like a better fit.

Whoops wrong deck to comment on. Please disregard :)

What I wanted to say here was I'd personally devote less room to multi-turn spells (especially that skip untap step one) and more to control/disruption/removal.

No problem iamacasual....I've done that before. When you look at several different decks and are commenting on a few; they can get mixed up kinda quickly :). I removed it so it only shows on the correct deck.

Savor the Moment has been a pretty strong card in this deck. It's works extremely well with both Garruk Wildspeaker and Ral Zarek , can set the "lock" with Panoptic Mirror quickly, and keeps our opponent from doing much while we grow our board state at the very least.

We will; however, put together a control version of this deck to see if this is a good route for the deck. We'll link it to this one so people can see the two and decide which they would be more comfortable playing with. Thanks again for the suggestions.

Intet, the Dreamer ? Huntmaster of the Fells  ^Flip could be fun with all the extra upkeeps, Mirror Sheen optional copying... im running out of ideas lol

dotytron...Mirror Sheen could be a great idea for this deck. We will play it in the place of Panoptic Mirror and/or a Savor the Moment (if we want to run two considering how quickly we can get it into play). This is a card we certainly have to try; as this could really push the deck even further (as two turns is exponentially better than one). What a great idea! We will test this right now (as we are testing sideboard cards, mill match-ups, control match-ups, and fast-aggro match-ups today). Thanks for the great idea!

A few updates....we found that the Mirror Sheen rarely ever actually got triggered....you'd have to have the mana for both the spell and the 3 additional; and it just didn't work out.

The deck is winning at a good percentage on turn 4 (a few turn 3 wins, but it takes a near perfect hand) now against combo decks (i.e. non-disruptive decks) and is performing much better than we expected. It's kind of one of those "you have to play it to see it" decks and it does take a little time getting used to; but we are happy with where the deck has progressed to.

We still have plenty of ideas to test and of course we'll continue to try and improve it. but we do appreciate all of the help given thus far!

Where do you think Kiora, the Crashing Wave would go? I can only think 1 Garruk and 1 Titan for 2 Kiora, but those probably serve very important roles. I know cutting a Garruk would affect performance a bit, and I'm not sure at what cost (not being familiar enough). The single Titan, I think, would at least be a safe cut, since her Explore ability will dig and drop. Plus, if she goes off, she makes her own beatsticks. She might not fetch a KWR, but the extra board presence has to be helpful, yeah?
Also, have you considered any of the R/G planeswalkers? I think Domri Rade is worst of them (for this deck), that Xenagos is best, and that Sarkhan Vol finds a weird middle ground. Domri only deals with combat, really, which is really only situationally helpful if you've gone off and need to make the kill NOW. Sarkhan makes for an irrelevant boost early game (depending, of course) but I think his second ability at least has its uses and his third is grand enough as is. And then Xenagos, The Reveler . His +1 is great if you have mana dorks, his 0 is okay, and his ultimate seems somewhat relevant. Maybe not late-game, but I think he'd be a good sideboard option, at least, for decks that do a good job of cleaning your clock. Exiling your Turn spells might not be worth the risk, I suppose.
I could be wrong about the utility of any of these, though, since I am not a master of such a beautifully rogue deck as this. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this.

thuzra....we have thought long and hard about finding a way to add Kiora, the Crashing Wave in this deck. You are right that you can get away with one Titan; but we need to test it heavily. It seems like it should fit!

To this day I'm surprised that Sarkhan Vol has not made it into a deck in Modern. He's good and is good in his color pair. Don't tell anyone ;), but we are developing/testing a R/G devotion super-friends deck with Sarkhan Vol , Domri Rade , Xenagos, The Reveler , Xenagos, God of Revels and Nylea, God of the Hunt (and obviously a bunch of ramp :). I'll post it tonight and link your name to it.

cool deck! very fun!

This looks really fun. One thing you may consider (and you'll probably like this more if you are a Johnny) is the Mycosynth Lattice Vorel of the Hull Clade combo. Lattice makes everything an artifact, even your superfriends, and vorel can double their loyalty counters. That is especially good with Doubling Season . Also, if all else fails, Vorel of the Hull Clade is ridiculous with Magosi, the Waterveil .

This looks great, and please feel free to ignore me if you are more a spike. +1.

Vorel doesn't synergise with Magosi; the counters come off when it bounces back to your hand.

thuzra is right...we learned that as well playing this deck :) We were under the same impression as well (as we simply avoided reading the "put it back in your hand" clause (as it seemed kinda stupid because it makes the card quite bad :) It is nearly a "do nothing" card unless you have things that double its effect. I guess there are situations where you may want to skip a turn and then take two; but we haven't thought of them! Seems like it SHOULD be a great card (especially in an "extra turn deck")...it just is so odd when it's actually played. Even if I can't find room for it in this deck, I'm definitely going to be using the Mycosynth Lattice / Vorel of the Hull Clade combo in a deck ASAP! Thank you for the great suggestions flyguy!

Thank you for the kindn words Elliote50!

Lol this is why I don't play modern. Dear god this is a +1 please take a look at my deck Bleed for my life. Thx

Ever considered Lighthouse Chronologist ?

Great suggestion scorpix and truly awesome card that not a ton of people know too much about!

We actually did have Lighthouse Chronologist in the deck at one point...it's really not bad in this deck (as the whole purpose is ramping and taking extra turns and he seems to fit that to a T being a mana-sink and extra turn guru.)

The only issue we found was that in modern; there's a lot of ways to kill a creature :) and a Path to Exile after pouring 7 mana into him is fatal (or bouncing him with like Merfolk with Vapor Snag and control can do) etc. This didn't happen all the time; and when he worked he was amazing. It was just to big of an investment not to get an "instant speed" take another turn.

Of course; we also simply may not have tested with him enough (and ran into relatively unlucky match-ups. We make 95% of our decisions on decks via testing; and most times we feel like this is a good thing. I can't tell you how many people have the "Skill" to look at a list, without any testing and make sweeping, definitive comments about how the deck will play or what cards are "bad"...and we've tested enough to know some of the oddest lists in the world (lists we could never come up with :) make the best decks in performance. This can also be a bad thing though; because you get a kind of "tunnel vision" using only your own testing experience and unless you test A LOT; you could make the wrong decision simply because the data is too limited. As with most things; the best "way" is probably somewhere in between both extremes :).

This card both fits the idea of the deck; and was not terrible in testing; just could create issues. Still a fantastic card. I'll definitely test with him again if for no other reason than that it's fun :). That, and I've seen many of your suggestions and have yet to ever see one that wasnt either right or well thought out. He's actually pretty darn good against Zoo; so maybe there's a better place for him now. Thank you so much for the great idea!

Oh, and based on the amount of creature-produced mana, Myr Superion seems highly usable, and so does Blustersquall , because beating someone to death with a Noble Hierarch just isn't enough... ; )

And maybe Countersquall for the sideboard. By the way, when I click on your name, it doesn't show your Grixis Rise/Fall deck. Is this happening often?

Oh my gosh, sorry, this deck doesn't use black. My mistake.

And I was a little unspecific with one of my other comments. You only have eight creature ramp cards, but what I meant was using Ral to untag one and tap it again, well, if you haven't found Doubling Season yet.You could also add some melera-pod to the brew. ( I also wanted to know if I'm the only person who likes Grove of the Burnwillows ).

Grove of the Burnwillows is awesome! There's no reason not to use it (as this isn't a deck where a few extra points of life are gonna make a difference in most games). Great idea!

I'll look at the links and see if I need to rename something (so it is specific enough to go directly to my deck). Thank you for points g this out. And yes; Countersquall looks like a great idea for the Modern Grixis Rise/Fall deck. I saw the comment over there; so I'll remove it on this one.

I never thought about going a Pod route it anything like that. Could be a neat idea just to add Ral, Garruk, and one Untap spell (or Intruder Alarm ) to a Pod deck do you get two-three turns to Pod into your combo before your opponent gets to go :). Ha! You may have an idea here scorpix. All it takes is a Pod, 1 mana, and one life! Using creatures like Wall of Roots and Devoted Druid would allow you to circumvent the downside to Savor the Moment even more! What a fun idea! You have my brewer heart racing :)

I'd be happy to put a brew up for the idea; but it was yours initially to add a Pod; so let me know if your putting one on here and I'll just comment/suggest. Could be fun and effective combo deck with Savor the Moment , Birthing Pod , Wall of Roots , Devoted Druid and the Melira combos (as there are ways to Pod for any part and Pod decks always have a ton of mana). It's your idea; and I'd be happy to make suggestions, but you should get the credit for such a fun and unique idea :) there's absolutely no guarantee it will work; but it actually sounds reasonable to me :). And you never know until you try!

Great ideas scorpix!

And if your having problems protecting your creatures, Mizzium Skin is good.

Just want to make sure you know: Grove of the Burnwillows costs like $40! : (

Thanks, but I'm not really planning on making a melira-pod deck right now, but maybe later. (But you could always check out some of my other decks.)

Also, (hope this doesn't sound mean) you should probably update the deck description, and now that I think about it, Lighthouse Chronologist doesn't really seem necessary, since you already have a ton of extra turn cards, and it would just make you have to completely alter the deck to fit it's very restricting needs.

You may also want to update you 4-Color Life Grind deck.