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Commander / EDH MrKrabs

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NoSoyYucateco says... #1

No Restoration Angel? You have several good targets for it, and it's another Kiki/Twin piece.

April 11, 2017 7:33 a.m.

MrKrabs says... #2

That's a fine suggestion and I ran it in the past when this was just a UWR deck, but it can't untap Birthing Pod or reset itself (for Splinter Twin) which makes it less valuable than Felidar Guardian or Zealous Conscripts in the end.

If I feel like I need another copy of that half of the combo it would be the first one to add, though. The problem is, you start diluting card quality the more you run.

There's also an argument for running it over Village Bell-Ringer, since Bell-Ringer doesn't untap Pod either, but Resto doesn't combo with Twin, so...

April 11, 2017 11:23 a.m. Edited.

NoSoyYucateco says... #3

Right. I see what you're saying. I think the dilution is an issue, but I have always seen Restoration Angel as such a versatile card. It's come in handy in a lot of ways I haven't expected it to.

If for some reason you were unable to combo off (say, Kiki and Twin are dead or exiled, for example,) it still has some very relevant uses. Like re-snapping that Snapcaster Mage, or even flickering Karmic Guide to grab Kiki from the graveyard, if he were in there.

April 11, 2017 1:22 p.m.

NoSoyYucateco says... #4

Oops, never mind. It can't hit Karmic Guide. It can hit Zealous Conscripts, which can be very useful.

April 11, 2017 1:27 p.m. Edited.

So few questions, First up... What are the thoughts on running a commander partner pair that could help? The really big one being Thrasios, Triton Hero, a card draw outlet in the command zone seems more beneficial. Additionally you are running enough artifacts such that Akiri, Line-Slinger may be a notable threat.

Next, A few card questions... -Arcane Denial vs Delay? This is a more recent one to me but it Delay has been better unless you are really wanting the card draw from Arcane Denial. Thoughts?
-Path to Exile vs Swords to Plowshares? Wouldn't life be better for you to give away than the possible ramp?
-Orim's Chant vs Silence? Any big reason for Orim's here? Silence hits all opponents, same could be said with a Grand Abolisher but I think I like the insant better.

April 11, 2017 2:50 p.m.

MrKrabs says... #6

coreman -
Per the commander, I've already got the Thrasios deck I've been playing and you know how I am about that sort of thing.
Also, K&T theotetically nets me cards without any additional mana input, even if it's technically card disadvantage.
Akiri seems...underwhelming, at best. I don't want to bother spending mana on anything that isn't killing my opponents or getting me cards to kill my opponents.

Delay vs Arcane Denial seems kind of trivial in this, since counters are really only used to protect the critical turn in this. If I'm spending a counter outside of that turn then I'm already behind and I'd rather have it replace itself and give someone cards. It's worth testing, I suppose.

I address the Path and Chant concerns in the Card Selection portion of the writeup and I think I've mentioned it in conversation - I know they're worse. It's an aesthetic choice. If anyone else was building this deck I'd encourage using the other two unless they're weird like me.

April 11, 2017 4:15 p.m. Edited.

MrKrabs says... #7

NoSoyYucateco -

Right, and I'm not saying Resto is a bad card. Problem is, it only combos with Kiki-Jiki. Felidar Guardian also combos with Saheeli and Pod, and that's just enough to make it worth more to me than Resto in this current list. If I wanted to add Resto back in one of the non-combo cards would have to get cut and I think that damages the consistency a bit too much.

Resto-ing a Recruiter does sound sweet, though (god I wish it could flicker Karmic Guide), so it might make its way back in some day.

April 11, 2017 4:32 p.m.

Philo_Lij says... #8

+1 for the Namesake Alone!! I feel that you have more chances to make puns in the intro though ;(

April 11, 2017 5:56 p.m.

TempestShadow says... #9

April 20, 2017 7:33 a.m.

MrKrabs says... #10

TempestShadow if Bounding Krasis untapped permanents instead of creatures this deck would literally become 10% better, but instead it just breaks my heart.

If I could include Woodland Bellower at the top of my Pod chain and use it to get Bounding Krasis to untap Pod? These are the things I dream about at night.

April 20, 2017 1 p.m.

MrKrabs: Soo... at the same cmc as the Bounding Krasis.... Derevi, Empyrial Tactician? It does that but at 3 colors instead of two. It does a lot more as well if you need to get there.

April 20, 2017 5:14 p.m.

MrKrabs says... #12

Woodland Bellower only fetches nonlegendary :(

This is why I'm always bitching about WoTC printing a nonlegendary Derevi for me haha.

April 20, 2017 5:25 p.m.

lil_cheez says... #13

Midnight Guard is weak on it's own but can be a Splinter Twint combo piece...

Presence of Gond can work also, but I think only with the guard

The new card Combat Celebrant is also a combo piece, have a look on him!

April 21, 2017 12:38 p.m.

lil_cheez says... #14

Also maybe Goblin Bombardment, Impact Tremors and Purphoros, God of the Forge may work as backup wincons if you can't attack for some reason

April 21, 2017 12:41 p.m.

MrKrabs says... #15

Presence of Gond combos with Intruder Alarm, which I think I'd re-add to the list before adding Midnight Guard. The unfortunate part of Presence is that the tokens don't have haste.
More often than not, if I go off and can't kill everyone, then my stuff is all going to die before my next turn.

April 21, 2017 12:42 p.m.

goobergoober says... #16

Wouldn't black be better? Cards like Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are great in combo decks.

April 26, 2017 5:25 p.m.

MrKrabs says... #17

Maybe, but 5c Twin is a very different deck than UWR Twin. I personally just don't like playing black in competitive decks - especially combo decks - since I like the higher variance that comes with not running unconditional tutors. The base of the deck is squarely UR, so it's about deciding what other tools you want, and what cost you're willing to pay.

Ultimately, I like what white brings to the table more than any other color, both for card options and style reasons. Green is really just in here for Birthing Pod and that's about it...

April 26, 2017 5:31 p.m.

Hey, little thing, but in your description (in the part about card selection) you mention your typical Intuition search including Argivian Restoration and that card isn't in the list. I think you meant Argivian Find which is in the list and makes a lot more sense. Really cool deck, though. +1

April 28, 2017 2:09 a.m.

MrKrabs says... #19

Ah, good catch - I'll fix the description.

April 28, 2017 1:25 p.m.

IANBAWS says... #20

that deck name tho...haha. haven't even looked at it, just came here to comment on the name. good job.

April 30, 2017 4:15 p.m.

Ihazadeck says... #21

just curious, no Restoration Angel, Why? also this deck is fabulous.

May 6, 2017 5:07 p.m.

MrKrabs says... #22

Ihazadeck I go into the Restoration Angel decision a bit in the first comment. Since it only combos with Kiki it's one of the lower-tier combo pieces to choose from. Ultimately I cut it for Felidar Guardian.

May 7, 2017 1:07 p.m.

Ihazadeck says... #23

i would have figured something that can blink instant speed and then block would be something this deck wants but then again making cuts and all of that is a whole lot tougher than one would think. so i can understand the decision

May 7, 2017 1:49 p.m.

entheogeneral says... #24

Combat Celebrant also combos off, might wanna add that.

May 7, 2017 3:13 p.m.

MrKrabs says... #25

Combos with Kiki and Splinter Twin, so in theory it's a strong inclusion.

Doesn't combo with Pod, which makes me sad...

May 7, 2017 3:35 p.m. Edited.

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