Sadomasochist Surprise

Commander / EDH* DudeMan1031

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WesomeNight says... #1

Imo if you are going to play Smothering Tithe you outta be playing lots of heavy draw effects to make it worth it otherwise I would Scrap it for Spirit of the Labyrinth to keep your opponents from out drawing you with their engines.

I feel like these cards could be replaced with better options. Mogg Maniac,Spitemare and Truefire Captain etc etc. Could just be Repercussion and you can use the other slots for enchantments and creatures that prevent the damage of archangel avacyn flip for a one sided damage+wrath effect. I also don't see Basilisk Collar which is almost a must have for the list. It can put you way out of kill range and wrath the board of all creatures, but your commander. For each target you would gain 3 life. IE if three opponents with 5 creatures each will give you 54 life.

June 24, 2020 2:53 p.m.

DudeMan1031 says... #2

So you're saying I shouldn't run the sadomasochists in the deck that I specifically built around them? Way to miss the point of the deck. Repercussion is a good card for the deck tho, so thanks for that.

June 25, 2020 1:17 a.m.

WesomeNight says... #3

"I shouldn't run the sadomasochists" Imo you should change your commander if that's what you want to run. Firesong and Sunspeaker is what you should be playing instead of archangel avacyn... One is for big spells and will be more spell based the other is more creature based. I should have added that, but did not know if you wanted to continue playing the same commander.

June 25, 2020 7:53 a.m.

Last_Laugh says... #4

I was expecting cards like Deflecting Palm and Boros Fury-Shield from the "Stop Hitting Yourself".

July 1, 2020 3:42 p.m.

DudeMan1031 says... #5

Prefer to be able to hit our opponent's over and over, which those two can't unless we set up the Sunforger+Mistveil Plains loop, and in that case we can't pay the red for Boros Fury-Shield for the actual hitting. Prefer Comeuppance over both of them since it protects from multiple sources for the whole turn.

July 2, 2020 12:47 a.m.

ABigDumbBear says... #6

It might be too situational, but have you considered Volcano Hellion? As long as you have a Stuffy Doll and more life than an opponent, it's a one-shot.

July 3, 2020 3:43 p.m.

WesomeNight says... #7

ABigDumbBear the only way to live with that is to give it lifelink if he had taken any damage from Repercussion for example. Since stuffy doll only hits a chosen play you don't have to worry about it dealing damage to you.

July 3, 2020 11:15 p.m.

WesomeNight says... #8

Ohhhh the helion deals the damage to you NVM -_-

July 3, 2020 11:17 p.m.

Xannthic says... #9

I would suggest Gideon's Sacrifice instead of Martyrdom. Cheaper to cast, with the only downside being that you don't have a choice with the redirect. Not a big change, but it might save you in a pinch.

July 14, 2020 4:42 a.m.

DudeMan1031 says... #10

Gideon's Sacrifice is definitely worth running, thanks for that. However you can't overlook how Martyrdom can redirect damage that would be done to your opponents and their permanents towards our sadomasochists which Gideon's Sacrifice can not. Makes it so the Craterhoof Behemoth player isn't safe to swing out at anyone.

July 18, 2020 5:50 p.m.

Part of me is wondering if AEther Flash would have a place here?

I'm making a (non-edh) casual deck with a somewhat similar idea. Though it's using a bunch of protection-from-red and indestrucible creatures along side some smaller red sweepers like Deafening Clarion and Pyroclasm.

Definitely getting some fun ideas out of this list. I had no idea Stormwild Capridor was a thing.

July 23, 2020 10:32 p.m.

Gory.Flory says... #12

Consider Flawless Maneuver?

August 8, 2020 10:57 p.m.

City of Brass and Ancient Tomb for damage to start a Pariah-based combo!

February 23, 2021 9:18 p.m.
September 10, 2021 12:35 p.m.

MistaMint says... #15

Don't some of your infinite damage loops result in draws? If you can't end a combo, and the combo isn't killing anyone, that results in a draw

September 23, 2021 8:46 p.m.

DudeMan1031 says... #16

Why would you assume an infinite damage combo wouldn't be able to kill anyone? All of the sadomasochists can redirect damage to an opp's face. Only issue is getting shut down by Angel's Grace and the likes, and at that point the draw is on the opponent.

September 23, 2021 11:17 p.m.

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