Salt Liquorice Assault (SLA)

Commander / EDH MrHighscore

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Coinman1863 says... #1

Well, you probably don't Dread and No Mercy because you have a lot of tutors and recur, so you do need both. Personally I would cut the Dread because enchantments are harder to kill than creature.

Also I would take out Graveborn Muse because with all the zombies you have it is going to kill you one day with a bunch of cards in hand. I would also take out Pestilence Demon because with all the sweepers and removal you have, this is kind of unnecessary.

May 15, 2015 4:01 p.m.

MrHighscore says... #2

@Coinman1863 Thank you for your input.

I have decided to cut both Dread and No Mercy - not because they are bad cards, but others seemed better :)

I have also decided to keep Graveborn Muse as she can provide some relatively early card advantage. I've never died to her in my Grimgrin, Combo-Swarm-Swine deck, so I don't think it will be a problem in this one.

Pestilence Demon was my first cut as you suggested. But now that I've settled on a drain, draw and gain strategy, I think he may acctually be a great addition to the deck?

Cheers

May 16, 2015 12:15 p.m.

trf6 says... #3

I have a feeling I'd hate this deck if it got rolling, but I also have a feeling that it doesn't have a strong enough early game to deal with any kind of combo or fast aggro.

May 16, 2015 12:29 p.m.

Coinman1863 says... #4

Four things,

  1. I would put Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre back in because I feel like you need the spot removal of anything (the anything is the important part here), and more ultra top end besides Exsanguinate.

  2. And/or alternatively you could put in a Nirkana Revenant as ramp and a top end beater that gets giant with all the mana you are producing which as a bonus has a really good body.

  3. Switch out Bloodgift Demon with Phyrexian Arena because as I said in a previous post, enchantments are usually better than creatures. If you need the beater, keep it in but I think you have enough other creatures that taking one out wouldn't screw stuff up.

  4. With the resurrecting theme in the deck, what about Living Death/Living End? This suggestion is more of a side thing than anything else.

Otherwise, this looks like a very solid deck list.

May 16, 2015 12:42 p.m.

MrHighscore says... #5

@Coinman1863 I want both Bloodgift Demon and Phyrexian Arena in the deck - I must have fat finger deleted it by accident! I will replace Grave Pact with Phyrexian Arena.

In this deck I think I prefer Nirkana Revenant. Usually she is almost always redundant when Ihave the mana to cast her, but in this decks I can really use the extra mana. If I were to add Nirkana Revenant what should I replace him/it with?

In general I don't like Living Death/Living End, as they are very situational. Even in decks with plenty of sac outlets, I usually end up deciding for other options.

Cheers.

May 16, 2015 12:58 p.m.

Coinman1863 says... #6

For Nirkana Revenant, I would take out Magus of the Coffers because:

  1. It gives similar ramp with better late game usefulness (mana sink to pump).
  2. It doesn't need to tap to ramp, which means it can ramp and and be a large blocker if you need it.
  3. It has almost exactly the same body.
May 16, 2015 3:01 p.m.

Aefinn says... #7

Salmiakki!

May 17, 2015 10:23 a.m.

gnizz00 says... #8

You swedish? Im pretty sure thats swedish candy.

May 17, 2015 4:05 p.m.

MrHighscore says... #9

Nirkana Revenant added instead of a swamp. I may regret it, but I could not find another card I wanted to drop. Magus of the Coffers makes sense, but ... ramp!

@gnizz00 I'm danish. The skulls was just the first hit on google image search;)

https://www.google.com/search?q=salt+liquorice+skulls&tbm=isch

May 17, 2015 4:37 p.m.

Spellbook or Anvil of Bogardan might be good for here.

May 18, 2015 2:37 a.m.

Pabooney says... #11

The new Myriad Landscape is decent ramp for monocolored decks.

May 18, 2015 12:12 p.m.

gnizz00 says... #12

Nightmare? Together with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth it can get enourmous, and keeps growing every time any land from anywhere enters the battlefield.

May 18, 2015 1:04 p.m.

MrHighscore says... #13

Thanks!

+1 Myriad Landscape -1 Swamp

Thinking about it +1 Ancient Tomb -1 Swamp

Cheers

May 18, 2015 1:07 p.m.

Since you're using Exquisite Blood already, why not find space for Sanguine Bond for the table killing combo? Might as well run it since you're mono black and people expect that one anyway.

May 18, 2015 2:12 p.m.

MrHighscore says... #15

@GeminiSpartanX you are so right - but seriously: What should I cut?

May 18, 2015 2:17 p.m.

Paradise Plume is the most lackluster card in this list to me. Also have you looked into Baleful Force? In a 4 player game it will draw you 4 cards per round as a super-Phyrexian Arena-on-a-stick.

May 18, 2015 2:30 p.m.

I'm a sucker for mono black decks (I run one too Maralen's Pact).

I like where this going. Quick question: have you considered switching Exquisite Blood for Sanguine Bond? I understand not running both, but with your life gain, I think bind might be better here.

Also, I would cut In Garruk's Wake for another tutor; either Sidisi, Undead Vizier or Demonic Collusion would be my suggestion.

May 18, 2015 8:57 p.m.

MrHighscore says... #18

@GeminiSpartanX I like the Paradise Plume as it provides a bit of ramp and a bit of life gain. I know its not brilliant at either, but I would only replace it for a better rock.

I'll replace the avatar with the force:

+1 Baleful Force -1 Avatar of Woe

I want to find room for Sanguine Bond (not at the cost of Exquisite Blood) so that I have at least one infinite loop win condition, if I need it. I'm tempted to exchange it for a Swamp.

@Karns_Pyromancer I'll consider a Demonic Collusion.

May 19, 2015 4:15 a.m.

MrHighscore says... #19

@gnizz00 regarding the Nightmare I think I'll pass. Even if it was in the spirit of the deck it is just a beatstick with no other qualities.

May 19, 2015 4:16 a.m.

Rune_Hoejsgaard- I'd be weary of removing another land for the Sanguine Bond. You have an abundance of high cmc cards in this deck, so it looks like you might run into mana issues if you don't draw your 4th land in any given game (since many of the non-land cards listed under your ramp section seem to cost 4+).

As far as what to remove, (and don't crucify me for saying this), I think that Yawgmoth's Will doesn't do much for this deck. You have a lot of 4+cmc cards, as well as hardly any low cmc cost instants/sorceries that could be abused with the YW. In this deck it seems to function only as a possible Victimize at best or other reanimation spell. Although it would be good for getting back a destroyed enchantment, it seems like due to this decks' high cmc you're only retrieving 2 cards back on average. I won't say that it's the best card to remove from your deck, but it does seem somewhat anti-synergystic when it could be replaced with more ramp or something that would help in the early game.

May 19, 2015 7:35 a.m.

MrHighscore says... #21

@GeminiSpartanX I agree... Yawgmoth's Will is out (I only own one copy, so it will find a home in another EDH deck)

+1 Sanguine Bond -1 Yawgmoth's Will

Cheers

May 19, 2015 7:51 a.m.

MartialArt says... #22

Did you consider Magus of the Mirror, Mirror Universe and Soul Conduit?

Since you loose a lot of life it might be funny to redirect the total loss to a opponent who has lost less.

greets MA

May 19, 2015 8:31 a.m.

MrHighscore says... #23

@MartialArt I did consider Mirror Universe, but I did not find room for it in the deck. What would you cut, if you were to add it?

May 20, 2015 3:05 p.m.

MartialArt says... #24

Unstable Obelisk. Too much mana and it will most likely be destroyed before it's activated. A normal destroyer will have a better effect.

Try Doom Blade, Go for the Throat, Rend Flesh or Chilled to the Bone for example.

Try putting out Syphon Mind. You only have one of those effects and it's not doing this much.

I would personally not use Ivory Tower and Venser's Journal in here. It's not what your deck is aiming for and mono black tends to use hand cards quite quickly.

I have a mono black deck as well that tends to loose life quite quickly. Nightmares coming true if you want to take a look at it. Even if the approach is quite different.

GreetsMA

May 21, 2015 4:54 p.m.

MrHighscore says... #25

@MartialArt I like the Unstable Obelisk as a rock with added benefits. If I were to replace it, it would probably be for another rock. In my experience an obelisk will be allowed on the battlefield, as there is always something more important that needs to be handled first :)

I understand your thoughts on Ivory Tower and Venser's Journal. I havent made up my mind about them, so I will keep them in the deck for now. I think the idea is good, but one might argue that if I have (and keep) enough cards in my hand to get any advantage, then I would also win the game in a jiff.

Syphon Mind is a good draw spell for the price. The discard effect is so so, but it might just add fuel to the fire for half of the other decks in my meta. I'll consider playtest with Mirror Universe next time I get the chance.

Cheers

May 25, 2015 2:55 a.m.

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