Machinations of the Draconian

Commander / EDH MrAwesomeSocks

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MrAwesomeSocks says... #2

tkizzle: What new Dragons? Which planeswalkers? Be more specific please :)

August 7, 2016 1:24 a.m.

tkizzle says... #3

Markham the dragon tamerandthereisanother one also,alongwithseverluberdragons inthat set, so I was curious if you tried any of them out. Or think this deck is better without them, I'll try to find the names to the ones I'm reffering to

August 7, 2016 2:03 a.m.

tkizzle says... #4

Sarkhan unbroken... sorry on my phone hard to type, basically though since you created this just wanted to know if you considered adding the new cards or think it's better off without them

August 7, 2016 3:08 a.m.

MrAwesomeSocks says... #5

tkizzle: Sarkhan Unbroken is a decent planeswalker in other decks. Since I'm not running a Dragon swarming deck, he's largely unnecessary.

I'm going to assume you mean the rest of the block, Khans - Dragons of Tarkir. There were some good cards from the sets. The cards I mainly kept are the Dragons with Hexproof. Before the Tarkir block, the only way to protect Scion would be to have some form of external Shroud in the form of equipments or Quicksilver Dragon. Now there's an additional 3 Dragons that can protect him.

There's a nasty little combo in the form of Dack's Duplicate + Enduring Scalelord , where you make infinite +1/+1 counters, but it was cut out of the deck when I was trying to streamline it. Feel free to try it out though. You might have better success that I did.

August 7, 2016 9:57 a.m.

tkizzle says... #6

Thanks for the answer,i knew there was a dragon with hex proof in the set as well as a few others just wasn't sure if this deck had been updated since it came out,so if this isn't a swarm deck, what would you classify it as? And thanks. Again

August 7, 2016 12:17 p.m.

TheBeans says... #7

This is neat!

August 12, 2016 9:40 p.m.

MrAwesomeSocks says... #8

TheBeans: Thanks! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!

August 12, 2016 9:48 p.m.

tkizzle says... #9

how is patriarchs bidding not in all scion decks, even if other cards have a lower cmc like [unburial rites] for 5 mana, but with the lands your recommending, no way enough mana is an issue, and scions graveyard would trump anyone elses , id about bet my house on it. i just find it to be a sweet card for a scion deck , along with [aetheticism], [volraths shapeshifter] and [dragon arch]. however, im gonna still go with your suggestions because i know you have tested this build for over a year and have experience playing with it, i might just use a few of the cards i mentioned to replace the more expensive ones from your build. anyhow love your help thanks again

August 14, 2016 6:31 p.m.

enpc says... #10

tkizzle: Patriarch's Bidding helps your opponents too much, simple as that. At higher levels of play, you really want to avoid potentially reanimating 3+ of your opponent's creatures for them.

Not to mention this deck isn't designed to swarm with dragons, it's a combo deck. So there will be less dragons than you think and they're not all combat heavy ones either.

August 14, 2016 7:25 p.m.

tkizzle says... #11

like i said im sure you tested this and theres a reason behind all of it, thats why im going with all your recommendations besides a few simply cause i dont have a few extra thousand to spend i have purchased all non land cards except 2 of the artifacts which im sure ill be getting too, you saved me alot of time. do u know of a thread to help with your attack phase to put these combos together, ? thanks

August 14, 2016 7:50 p.m.

enpc says... #12

As for testing, I'll have to default to MrAwesomeSocks for that.

If you have questions about the deck you're building, the best thing you can do is put a list together so people can help you on there. As for forum threads, you'd have to check or start your own.

August 14, 2016 10:07 p.m.

Spoosky says... #13

What is your meta ?

August 17, 2016 3:30 p.m.

SgtBeanz says... #15

im surprised that ur not runing the artifact dragon statues that count as lanf an can also be turned into a creature. and should get tri lans they can count for 1 of 3 colors most of tiem they might help you alot also.

August 18, 2016 11:47 a.m.

Spoosky: Thanks for the comment! My meta is constantly changing, due to my playgroup, myself included, constantly changing decks to keep things interesting. This deck just happens to be my absolute favorite, but I have 11 other decks on me when I want to switch things up.

And yes, Feldon of the Third Path + any of the Kamigawa Dragons is pure shenanigans. My favorite is still Feldon of the Third Path + Yosei, the Morning Star .

August 18, 2016 12:02 p.m.

SgtBeanz: Thanks for the comment!

I'm not sure what dragon statue you're referring to. Do you have a link of some sort?

Also, I have stated this plenty of times before, but I hate using any land that comes into play tapped. Slowing yourself down for 1 turn is a nice way to delay yourself while allowing other players to establish their board position faster than you.

August 18, 2016 12:05 p.m.

iBleedPunk says... #18

August 18, 2016 12:08 p.m.

Faceless_Being: Thanks for the comment. And thank you!

To answer your question SgtBeanz, I would not run them. They're three cost mana rocks, which aren't too bad, but there are better alternatives. They would add a nice flavor to the deck, but overall not worth it.

August 18, 2016 12:16 p.m.

SgtBeanz says... #20

no i mean lands that can count as 1 of thee colors no cost bc there lands

an yes those statues

August 18, 2016 12:50 p.m.

Kinpa6Ansatsu says... #21

Do you mean lands like Arcane Sanctum or Frontier Bivouac. As a Scion player, those lands are too slow. I would almost rather run Guildgates and have a Maze's End toolbox to compensate for the speed.

August 18, 2016 2:06 p.m.

VexenX says... #22

WOU HOU!!! ALL SHINY!!! I am just missing Scapeshift and Cavern of Souls... I am fully convinced that they are getting a reprint soon though...

August 28, 2016 11:25 a.m.

Hey guys! Please check out the latest update if you get a chance! Just new things I want to try out with the deck.

August 28, 2016 11:27 a.m.

Hey VexenX! Yeah, besides the ABUR Duals and a couple random cards :( I will never get my Duals altered. Probably not the Volrath's Stronghold either. Oh well. I like to just take out the deck and stare at it in my free time lmao!

Maybe Modern Masters 3? Both of those cards are in DIRE need of a reprint. I think each of their foils are over $100 at this point.

August 28, 2016 11:35 a.m.

VexenX says... #25

The trick with the Duel lands is if you really want them altered just buy them like that in eBay. Artists get heavily played copies and alter them so that you can only see damage if you take the card out and look on the back. They are generally a lot cheaper then the normal copies too. This way you keep your duals to use elsewhere!

I will be shocked if not at least one is in MM3, but I fully expect both in there. But who knows, it might be in Conspiracy 3, Berserk, Burgeoning, and Show and Tell kinda broke the mold lol

August 28, 2016 11:52 a.m.

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