Machinations of the Draconian

Commander / EDH MrAwesomeSocks

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Zer0w says... #1

WOW!!! I am glad I am following this deck's comments... I will have to revamp my deck to accommodate some of these cards!

P.S Nature's Will would be funny with double strike... like with Dragon Tyrant hit 'em once and untap everything then pump him some more for the second hit... not that he needs any more power... but it'd still be funny :)

January 7, 2015 12:06 a.m.

SomeDipshit says... #2

Yeah that's exactly what it is for -- locks down responses to combat shennanigans (which is what Scion does for the combos) and frees mana for the most main phase fiesta. With any decent mana sync (here, the Scion ability), it get's absolutely nuts.

Whenever that resolves in a wanderer deck, it's game over.

January 7, 2015 12:47 a.m.

Honestly, I'd include Conspiracy, and then run stuff like Blightsteel Colossus, especially since you can make it that over and over again. Same goes with Progenitus for protection.

January 24, 2015 10:03 p.m.

MrAwesomeSocks says... #4

Emrakul-the-Format-Broken: Thanks for the suggestion! I did initially run it with those cards, along with Avacyn, Angel of Hope and other awesome cards like that. Unfortunately, I felt that I was trying to do too much with the deck and ended up taking them out. I was thinking about making a second Scion deck just for Conspiracy though. I might just have to do it lol.

January 24, 2015 10:41 p.m.

How about Hatred? Swing, pay 15 life, commander damage wins without any transforming.

January 25, 2015 1:40 p.m.

almalong says... #6

Are you going to be using any of the fate reforged dragons? especially Silumgar, the Drifting Death the one and ONLY hexproof dragon.

January 26, 2015 3:30 p.m.

MrAwesomeSocks says... #7

almalong: Yes, of course! I just haven't gotten the cards yet. That's why most of the Fate Reforged Dragons are still in the Maybeboard. I only put cards I actually have in the Mainboard.

January 26, 2015 5:38 p.m.

almalong says... #8

sounds awesome, I've been looking around at Scion decks lately because my baby brother wants to play a dragon tribal deck and this is the first thing that came to mind, I really like yours but I'm curious I've read a couple places that Conspiracy and any Eldrazi Titan just break Scion as he's able to recycle his graveyard over and over, have you tested that and what are you opinions of it.

January 26, 2015 10:31 p.m.

Kozelek says... #9

I prefer to fill my grave with dragons then Rise of the Dark Realms

January 27, 2015 10 a.m.

almalong: I love Conspiracy! It gives you access to some of the best cards in EDH, including Avacyn, Angel of Hope and others. My personal favorite was to swing with Conspiracy out, opponent doesn't declare blockers, then proceed to transform Scion into Blightsteel Colossus or Phage the Untouchable. Instant death.

That being said, keeping Conspiracy in play was a real chore. Play groups will immediately gang up on you if they see that card cast. If you do run it, I suggest running Privileged Position, Sterling Grove, or something similar that gives your enchantments Hexproof/ Shroud.

I ultimately took out the Conspiracy and most of the non-Dragon creatures. I felt the deck was trying to do too much, so I streamlined the deck to make it more efficient. I wish you the best of luck building your brother's deck. Scion has always been my favorite EDH general. I'm sure your brother will like him too.

January 27, 2015 10:23 a.m.

Ezereth says... #11

i'm curious why no Crucible of the Spirit Dragon for some more ramping into dragons.

February 9, 2015 4:52 p.m.

Ezereth: Thanks for the comment! I'm not a big fan of the storage lands, even if it does add a bit of flavor to the deck. They're slow and unreliable, in my opinion. It also doesn't help that I have an already well rounded mana base. Thank you for the suggestion, though :)

February 9, 2015 5:23 p.m.

Intet, the Dreamer is another dragon you could run, along with Crosis, the Purger.

I would main Atarka, World Render and Scourge of the Throne, I think they are good cards and worth running if you can.

Remove the creature Nicol bolas, I know he has flavor and all but the upkeep cost is very high. Those are just my preferences, really there is very little else i would change with this deck, maybe add in Swiftfoot Boots and Whip of Erebos if you can. and perhaps Living Death and that other card which can bring back all creatures of a single type from your grave to the battle field.

February 11, 2015 12:53 p.m.

Kozelek says... #14

February 11, 2015 1:03 p.m.

succeeddamnyou: Thanks for the suggestions!

Intet, the Dreamer is more of a hit or miss, and unfortunately, I miss often lol. Nicol Bolas is superior to Crosis, the Purger, and I don't have the space to run both.

I would love to main Atarka, World Render and Scourge of the Throne, but I just don't seem to have the space. Any suggestions on what to take out and I'm all ears.

I don't keep Bolas in play. He's used when Scion of the Ur-Dragon attacks and nothing else. I already have a Lightning Greaves, so I don't think Swiftfoot Boots is necessary. I dislike Living Death and Patriarch's Bidding, as they both allow my opponents to reanimate things as well.

Thank you for the comments and suggestions!

February 11, 2015 1:06 p.m.

Kozelek says... #16

When I first saw it I fell in love with Destructor Dragon but then I realized it was only when he died and I felt like how you feel when you wake up the next morning and realize that 10 you met at the bar and went home with last night was actually a 1 with no teeth and a lazy eye

February 11, 2015 1:22 p.m.

Kozelek Haha, man! Quite the analogy!

I rather like Destructor Dragon. I use it similarly to how I use Yosei, the Morning Star and Keiga, the Tide Star. If you manage to catch me off guard and destroy Scion of the Ur-Dragon, it'll come at a price.

As always, thanks for the input. It's always appreciated!

February 11, 2015 1:25 p.m.

Kozelek says... #18

I can see it working with feldon too now that I looked at your deck list again

February 11, 2015 1:33 p.m.

Zer0w says... #19

I also have a scion deck How to Train Ur-Dragon. The reason you don't really want to run Crosis, the Purger and all his friends is because they have a 3 CMC activation cost which means that on your turn you attack with scion, if he lands a hit you turn him in to Crosis, the Purger and activate the ability, the total of that is 5 then you need to keep 2 or 3 mana available to change scion into a defensive or star dragon in response to a removal, so on your turn you can do anything else. With all of that said this deck is very mana hungry and you simply can't afford the activation cost.

Nicol Bolas is a power house... and you don't have to pay his upkeep. just swing with scion and see what your opponent does. if he block turn scion into a trampling beast like Dragon Tyrant who will kill the blocker and still bring some pain. but if your opponent takes it in the face you can choose how you want to punish him. Do you want to kill all of his guys with Balefire Dragon, take another attack phase with Scourge of the Throne (I think this creature belongs in here), or make him drop his whole hand with Nicol Bolas. by the time your upkeep shows up again good ol' Nick is in your bin and he is ready to be reanimated with Patriarch's Bidding or even better Rise of the Dark Realms (I think both of these cards belong, sure, Bidding allows your opponent to reanimate a guy or 2 but I can guarantee you'll benefit MUCH more then anyone else) if you have Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund in your bin you all of these FAT FATTIES come out swinin' and that usually ends the game especially if you can gain a second attack phase and or all of your dragons gain double strike.

At least this is how I run my deck.

It looks like MrAwesomeSocks runs much more spot reanimation to gain tempo and board presence. I like to fill my grave yard then go crazy with s game ending reanimation.

February 11, 2015 1:37 p.m.

Kozelek says... #20

Yea I go full out cloning effects in mine (A Dragon by any other name blantant deck promotion) because scion is a clone

February 11, 2015 1:48 p.m.

Kozelek says... #21

Do you know that Kokusho, the Evening Star is no longer banned? He would be beastly with feldon especially in multiplayer games

February 11, 2015 2:19 p.m.

Zer0w: That's exactly why I dislike running The Invasion and Chaos dragons. 5 mana for an effect is too much, unless that effect is lethal to at least one player.

And yes, I run more spot reanimation. Allows a quick revival of Scion so I can begin swinging again ASAP.

February 11, 2015 3:21 p.m.

enpc says... #23

Why Laboratory Maniac? kind of seems pointless here, its not like you're running a Hermit Druid build.

February 17, 2015 10:11 p.m.

enpc: It's mostly for multiplayer games where I use the Curiosity + Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind combo. Laboratory Maniac does seem a bit out of place here though. Maybe I'll just side board it. Thanks for the comment!

February 17, 2015 10:15 p.m.

enpc says... #25

No problem. Maybe you could look into something like Living Death instead? Get your general down, pitch all your dragons and cast that for some decent beats. I would recommend putting in High Market also. That way you can sac your general in response to it resolving.

February 17, 2015 10:21 p.m.

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