Seal the Furnace Vents

Modern* twospires

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This is different. I like different. I'm gonna put this in my playtest folder and take it for a spin later. Then I'll come back and tell you what I think. :)

November 5, 2013 2:21 a.m.

Artemis_Swift says... #2

Perhaps a Shrapnel Blast or two for added Artifact saccing and five damage to a creature or player?

November 6, 2013 6:32 p.m.

twospires says... #3

I've been considering something like that. Usually, between Kuldotha Rebirth and Greater Gargadon I have a way to sacrifice my artifacts, but that might be a good Plan B. Any ideas for what I should remove?

November 6, 2013 7:16 p.m.

xKrenko says... #4

I agree a Shrapnel Blast would be good to add on here especially since you have Perilous Myr which in any case can deal 7 damage to target creature or player. Plus your going to need some creature removal for purposes of being chumped blocked since no creature has a way to get in easily by the turns they come in. You do have Panic Spellbomb which works for that part as well, but you need some other way of dealing damage just in case.

The hard part is what to take out and if I were to decide what to take out, it would be 1 Wild Guess and 1 Mycosynth Wellspring for 2 Shrapnel Blast and if you can slip 1 more it would be great. It should do you some good cause even then most of your stuff is low mana cost, and putting artifacts in the graveyard is basically what it's doing while dealing 5 damage.

I do love the idea behind this deck man..+1

November 7, 2013 3:19 p.m.

xKrenko says... #5

One other card I forgot to mention is Browbeat , for 3 mana is far better than Wild Guess draw three cards or your opponent takes 5.

November 7, 2013 3:42 p.m.

twospires says... #6

Yeah, from what I've seen so far, this deck is too slow and has too big of a conditional wincon to really be viable. I'll keep working on it, though. Anyway. I'll put in a few copies of Shrapnel Blast , which can be my removal.

Yeah, making room is the hard part. I think I'll cut 1 Greater Gargadon , since more than 1 is usually too much to handle. I originally has Wild Guess because I could use it to discard an artifact to pump my Slag Fiend , but I don't think the card is worth it. I'll replace it with Shrapnel Blast .

We'll see if it can work or if it just ends up being a cool idea that's too far-flung to be any good.

November 7, 2013 7 p.m.

xKrenko says... #7

I think the main reason why this deck is slow is because your relying on three slow creatures; Chimeric Mass , Slag Fiend , and Greater Gargadon . The biggest slowpoke here is Chimeric Mass and I do think he should be removed for something far better such as Moltensteel Dragon and its just even slower with your other support artifacts...

So, with some experimenting because I'm interested and I see potential found these other cards that can help speed up your deck or perhaps be more beneficial than some you have in here.

Cards to remove first to make room:

-4 Chimeric Mass too slow

-3 Mycosynth Wellspring you don't really need it

-4 Mishra's Bauble good and bad doesn't work well in your deck

-2 Flayer Husk bad equipment

-4 mountain for four Great Furnace

Cards to add in replace:

+1 Perilous Myr you need a full set

+4 Pyrite Spellbomb draw power, damage, or just sacrifice it, you choose!

+2 Fling for Slag Fiend and Greater Gargadon in case they are targeted, still good use of damage.

+2 Scrapyard Salvo in case you don't draw your Slag Fiend!

+3 Myr Retriever or Atog good creatures for sacrifice!

Hope this helps!!

November 8, 2013 4:17 p.m.

twospires says... #8

Thanks for the suggestions! Here's the original reasons why I had those cards in:Chimeric Mass : I will pay mana on this only about 5% of the time. Almost always, it's just an artifact that's easy to sacrifice: Pay 1 mana, it turns into a 0/0 and dies. In the event that I really need a creature, I can use it for one.

Mycosynth Wellspring : You're probably right here. I don't really love it. I'm almost always flooded with Mountain . I think I'll keep in 1, though.

Mishra's Bauble : I actually really like this. It's cheap as free and can draw me a card. If I don't want it to do that, it can enable Kuldotha Rebirth on the first time, which is very powerful.

Flayer Husk : Yep. You're right. The only reason I had it in there was because it was 1 mana and came with a Germ token, which means 2 things to sacrifice to a suspended Greater Gargadon . I just put it in, I'll see if I like it, could go either way.

Great Furnace : That would be nice. Just like with my Phylactery Lich deck, though, it's not Modern-legal. I'll think about it.

I don't like Fling much. I'd almost always rather have another Shrapnel Blast . I had Scrapyard Salvo in, but I rarely had enough artifacts to justify it. Now that I've got that count up, I'll see if I can find room.

Myr Retriever seems good, but I would rather have a more explosive sacrifice outlet than Atog .

I'll try to work in all these suggestions! Thanks again.

November 8, 2013 4:27 p.m.

xKrenko says... #9

Take out Mycosynth Wellspring for another Shrapnel Blast and i think that should be it the deck definitely runs a lot better. Progress in the working! yee!

November 9, 2013 6:29 p.m.

xKrenko says... #10

Also my mistake I thought you had this deck in legacy but your right Great Furnace is not legal in modern, overall still a great card for a deck like this!

November 9, 2013 6:38 p.m.

twospires says... #11

You really don't like Mycosynth Wellspring , do you? I'm just worried that I'll get mana screwed from going down from 4 to 1 with only 18 lands. I'll take it out, but leave it in the maybeboard in case that happens.

Also, decided that Flayer Husk isn't worth it, so 2 more Pyrite Spellbomb s are going in.

It's a pretty easy switch to take Great Furnace out. In casual play, I'll have them. If I go to a tournament, I'll just take them out. Easy enough.

November 9, 2013 8:22 p.m.

twospires says... #12

Just want to put this out there: Does anybody think it's a good idea to splash another color? Blue, maybe? I'm kinda not thinking so, but wanted to make sure I was making the right decision.

November 20, 2013 4 p.m.

justme says... #13

blue would be a good color. what cards were you thinking about?

November 21, 2013 7:23 a.m.

twospires says... #14

Things like Desperate Ravings or more card drawing. Artifact synergy might help as well. I'm not thinking that diluting the colors will be very helpful, but just wanted to make sure I'm right about that.

November 21, 2013 11:25 a.m.

justme says... #15

Tinker would help

November 21, 2013 11:50 a.m.

twospires says... #16

Yeah, but Tinker is super broken and costs half as much as the rest of the deck. I also don't have the money for shocks or checklands, so I'm really thinking that adding another color is a bad idea. I won't do it unless I can get a good reason.

Thanks for the help, though!

November 21, 2013 2:53 p.m.

xKrenko says... #17

Its a good and bad idea to add another color such as blue, the bad your going to have to take out cards in replace for some and your deck is already solid in doing its job. The good you can add cards like Izzet Charm , Trinket Mage , or Vedalken Certarch and many others.

One card that I recently came up to due to me looking through the set planar chaos is Fury Charm with this card I think it will complete your deck.

November 21, 2013 3:46 p.m.

twospires says... #18

You think? I saw it, thought it might be good. All of its functions would be relevant in this case. I'll make sure to put it firmly in the maybeboard; I'll see if I like it.

November 21, 2013 11:32 p.m.

Very awesome deck +1!

November 22, 2013 6:46 p.m.

twospires says... #20

OK, xKrenko, you're a genius. Now that I think about it, Fury Charm is absolutely perfect in this deck.

  1. It destroys an artifact. I can use this om an opponent's artifact, or it can be a last-ditch effort to take out my own artifact if I need to pump a Slag Fiend .

  2. It gives trample. This solves the problem of my huge Greater Gargadon s and Slag Fiend s getting chumped all day long.

  3. It removes time counters from my suspended Greater Gargadon , in case I don't have anything to sac and need it now.

So, this would be amazing! I want at least 3. The only question is what to cut. Any ideas? I also saw a few of them at my friend's house, so I should be able to trade for them easily. Thanks for the suggestion!

November 23, 2013 10:01 p.m.

Have you ever thought of using Chromatic Star and/or Atog ? +1

November 24, 2013 2:16 a.m.

xKrenko says... #22

Told ya so! haha. Yea definitely a good card and I couldn't agree more 3 of them should be just fine. If I were to take out something I would take out maybe 1 Panic Spellbomb or perhaps 1 Pyrite Spellbomb whichever works best but you should be fine with taking either one of them.

I also agree a bit with PriestessKikyo1 about Chromatic Star seems like a good card in replace for Mishra's Bauble cause even if you destroy it with a Shrapnel Blast or for something else you still draw a card...or sacrifice for some mana if you need it. Mishra's Bauble does pay for itself though all depends in situations but only gives you two choices sacrifice it draw a card, or just put it in the graveyard..however, both are good cards nonetheless.

Nice work overall! deck is at its peak...

November 24, 2013 2:48 p.m.

xKrenko says... #23

Most importantly you can take out Mycosynth Wellspring for the another Fury Charm and keep the spellbombs! :D you really don't need that card...and its not because I don't like it haha.

November 24, 2013 2:52 p.m.

twospires says... #24

All right, you convinced me. I do think that Chromatic Star would be a good card. One of the strongest first-turn plays this deck has is either Chimeric Mass or Mishra's Bauble followed by a Kuldotha Rebirth . Three 1/1s on the first turn is nothing to laugh at. I'd rather keep those 0-mana artifacts if I can. So if there's something else I can cut for Chromatic Star , I'll do it. But I don't know what to take out.

November 24, 2013 6:37 p.m.

xKrenko says... #25

I would consider Chromatic Star more of a situational card then, so you should probably just keep it on your maybeboard or sideboard it! Cause even then you are right that an early good start in bringing in 1/1s goblins is far better. The deck or even then test the card out by replacing say maybe 2x Faithless Looting .

November 26, 2013 2:56 p.m.

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