atomic_moose says... #3
100% upvote for the name and the concept. You have most of the bases covered.
Here are the thoughts I had:Beast Within for removal, Nevinyrral's Disk for board wipe, and lastly Serra's Sanctum because 26 enchants.
November 4, 2015 8:11 p.m.
BotaNickill says... #4
Censuring, thanks for the suggestion! I do have that one, I'll try and find a slot for it! Yeah Angels!
will6853 I don't think I have him or he would be in the deck! But yes! Thanks! I'll pick him up!
atomic_moose Thanks for the vote buddy! I don't have Serra's Sanctum but I wish I did. Nevinyrral's Disk Is Awesome, and I do have one. I didn't put it in the mix yet cause I like to think the best offense is a better offense, but, it is always good to have a backup plan! I'll try and find a slot for it.
Thanks again for the upvotes and the suggestions!
November 4, 2015 9:41 p.m.
If you're looking for a lot of hexproof, in addition to the aforementioned Asceticism, you could consider Archetype of Endurance if your manabase is good enough (and I would think it would be with your commander). It nullifies other hexproofers on your opponent's fields as a bonus.
November 7, 2015 12:31 a.m.
If you're looking for protection from typical blue plays, a cheap way to do so is play Grand Abolisher. Pretty much allows you to safely play out your turns without any responses.
November 7, 2015 2:14 a.m.
Antoniobizarro says... #7
Sterling Grove is amazing for enchantment based decks.
November 7, 2015 4:45 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #10
Three Dreams, Plea for Guidance, Mystic Barrier (turns EDH into round robin), Flickerform, Auramancer, Open the Vaults, Sun Titan, Emeria, The Sky Ruin and Return to Dust.
November 9, 2015 3:31 p.m.
BotaNickill says... #12
Thank you for all the suggestions! I appreciate the help!
Femme_Fatale thanks for the suggestions! Much appreciated! I actually did add Sun Titan to the deck before my match, and It was a good thing I did. He saved my Ass! I have the Auramancer and I will consider finding a slot for it. I might have Plea for Guidance, I'll have to check.... The other cards I don't have butt I will keep them in mind.
Cicjose, thanks for checking out my deck! I don't have any of those cards, but I will consider them for sure. I'm still trying to balance out the deck so I can be fast and am trying to not add too many large cmc creatures as the enchantments do the work for me, it is always a good idea to have a few beaters in the mix, but I prefer Angels for that slot for now!
Skydra2, I did have Archetype of Endurance in my initial list, but I decided it was too pricey, and the odds that I go up against another hexproof deck is pretty unlikely in my playgroup. My Buddies play Burn, Aggro and Red dragons for the most part.
Antoniobizarro thanks for the suggestion! I don't have that one, butt it looks like I should! I'll add it to my wishlist!
November 12, 2015 9:33 p.m.
Starfield of Nyx may be worthwhile to use for your non-auras, it could be rather hard to deal with. :)
November 16, 2015 6:09 a.m.
BotaNickill says... #14
Duckling, Thanks for checking on the build buddy! I already had Starfield of Nyx in the list, but alas I have yet to draw it in a game. So I'm not sure of it's usefulness just yet, but I agree that it has potential! So I shall leave it in there for now! Thanks anyways!
November 16, 2015 6:15 p.m.
Whoops! I completely overlooked it! Looks like a lot of fun to play! :)
November 16, 2015 7:42 p.m.
TeraInferno says... #16
Hello again BotaNickill. We have similar EDH decks (mine is: Sigarda Enchantment EDH ). One issue I have found is a difficulty dealing with effects like:
- Cyclonic Rift -> The bounce effect gets around hexproof and indestructible
- Merciless Eviction -> The exile all enchantments mode really hurts.
- Bane of Progress -> It also is not fun.
How have you dealt with these sorts of counter plays? Your deck, like mine, seems to share these vulnerabilities.
November 16, 2015 8:50 p.m.
BotaNickill says... #17
TeraInferno! It's good to have an ally on the Selesnya side! Unfortunately I don't have too much experience against blue/white/black control decks. You can never really prepare for a board wiper, butt I like to think that card draw is the best way to go. I try to utilize deck thinning with as much card draw as possible. I only have 2 friends that play EDH with me, and they play Boros/Aggro/Burn, and Red/Burn/Dragons. I basically built this deck because I like Selesnya colors,hexproof/angels/ramp and I wanted to be able to fuck them both over! I would like this deck to be able to fight against any other EDH Build, be versatile, and do well in multiplayer matches, but Like I said, I don't have anyone to test against who runs those types of builds. I would def like to collaborate with you and make these decks stronger! Perhaps we could help each other?
November 17, 2015 12:02 a.m.
TeraInferno says... #18
BotaNickill Most blue decks I have seen have run Cyclonic Rift. It is an instant speed(RARE in mtg) board wipe that gets around many forms of protection that are common. I have even seen aggressive edh decks run it, not just control builds.
I would love to share feedback and help to improve both our decks!!!
November 17, 2015 12:13 a.m. Edited.
Femme_Fatale says... #20
Cyclonic Rift is one of those cards everyone running blue must have.
November 17, 2015 12:18 a.m.
TeraInferno says... #21
Hello. I have been thinking about the board wipes I had mentioned earlier (Cyclonic Rift and Merciless Eviction). I think i might have found away to recover from these.
First, in response to the casting of either of these spells, you cast Renounce. This would allow you to prevent your field from being either exiled our bounced. You also could gain a bunch of life as well.
You then let the board wipe resolve.
Lastly, you cast Second Sunrise. This allows you to reanimate everything you had on your board.
It is expensive requiring both Renounce + Second Sunrise and therefore open, but it would allow you to save your board state. This 'combo' could be useful in any white deck, not just yours.
What do you think?
November 19, 2015 9:39 a.m.
BotaNickill says... #22
TeraInferno, Renounce + Second Sunrise seems like it would a good way to recover indeed! I don't have those cards, but I will keep an eye out. Even if you had one or the other it would most likely help your situation. The likelihood that you would have them both in your hand at the right time Is pretty slim. I like to think that having loads of card draw options like Kor Spiritdancer, Keen Sense, Snake Umbra, Argothian Enchantress,Eidolon of Blossoms, Ajani, Mentor of Heroes and some recurrence options like the ones you suggested, or cards like Wheel of Sun and Moon, Starfield of Nyx, Retether , Regrowth or Sun Titan. Totem armor would work just fine in most cases. Yes, you might get board wiped.... but your creature will live thanks to the totem, or perhaps you have a couple cards in hand still thanks to all the card draw options so you can start over. Always good to have a backup plan!
November 19, 2015 9:39 p.m.
BotaNickill says... #23
Cyclonic Rift doesn't scare me. If you return all my stuff to my hand, I will just recast it all.. and your rift is in the graveyard!
November 19, 2015 9:42 p.m.
BotaNickill says... #24
I just checked out commander 2015, and I think Shielded by Faith might be a good addition!
November 19, 2015 9:48 p.m.
I have found some ways to counter Cyclonic Rift, namely :
Nevermore naming Cyclonic Rift (Blue), Black sun's zenith (black), or their commander...
City of Solitude makes them only able to cast it on THEIR turn, and at a hefty 7 mana... they won't do much more that turn.
Grand Abolisher does the same job as the City... but it costs 2 and is a creature.
Also, cards i would like you to consider are :
Cavern of Souls - because uncounterable creatures are always welcome, moreso if your meta plays control heavy like mine;
Mesa Enchantress, Verduran Enchantress, Argothian Enchantress - the sisters of draw power.
Karmic Justice - Why not punish them for destroying your stuff?
Sterling Grove - Protects all your enchantments for a low price (exception made of itself) AND can act as instant speed tutor for another needed enchantment!
I would have a LOT of other cards to propose, but instead i'll just forward you to my deck, it's my main one, my precious :Enchanted! I'm Sigarda, and here's how you die. ! A few auras, but a LOT of lockdown and utility.
Cheers! You get that +1 from me too, for good stuff and memories :D
Censuring says... #1
Sigil of the Empty Throne seems like it would work well with all your enchantments
November 3, 2015 9:46 a.m.