EverythingIsK says... #2
I'll put it in the side board at least. The only thing that would prevent me from putting it to the main board is because of the 1 mana extra. I'll play test this later to see if there is much difference.
December 9, 2014 7:17 p.m.
brokensaint058 says... #3
SO basically scrying sheets will be reduced to a mountain before you can use them properly? You might as well drop the entire Snow theme of the deck and use regular mountains instead.
December 12, 2014 3:15 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #4
Snow-Covered Mountain count as basic lands. Skred deals ridiculous damage later in the game, thus why Boros Reckoner is such a key card in this deck. Scrying Sheets is fine where it is because if it's not being affected by a blood moon, it makes dead mana as a peak on the top of the deck. Otherwise, its just a mountain because it doesn't change its super type of being snow, and I get to use it as such. There's no real down side to it.
December 12, 2014 3:31 p.m.
Ancient_Sentinel says... #5
I have played this deck quite a lot online, so I am happy to provide a couple of suggestions from my experience. I would take out maybe 1 relic and the Ironfoots for some Pyroclasm which so SOOO nice against Zoo and Affinity. Vandalblast is good if you can cast it, but by turn 5, you're dead. Shatterstorm is decent, but I really find Forked Bolt great against most aggro, so I keep 1-2 Mainboard. Kills Vendilion Clique, Snapcaster Mage, Pestermite, etc. Speaking of Pestermite, Combust is a go-to Sideboard option vs Splintertwin. Since Bogles is not that common and Ratchet Bomb blowing up for 1 pretty much stomps on their faces anyway, I think it wouldn't kill you to take out a couple Aura Barbs for other sideboard goodies. As a last thought, consider Magma Jet. Scry 2 is nice, and 2 Damage kills a lot of mana dorks early, and maybe pushes through a little extra damage late game. Hope this helps!
March 2, 2015 8:53 p.m.
Ancient_Sentinel says... #6
Also, if you feel like you need more Snowies, Coldsteel Heart is good for ramps.
March 2, 2015 8:54 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #7
Ancient_Sentinel, What say I take out in place for it?
March 2, 2015 9:19 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #9
Oh, I missed your first comment xD I was asking about the Coldsteel Heart. I have a bit of Bogles hate because its a bigger thing in my local meta. I'm probably going to add in most of your suggestions in a little bit.
March 2, 2015 9:50 p.m.
I have problems with Shrine of Burning Rage here. Why not Anger of the Gods or Pyroclasm?
March 8, 2015 3:14 p.m.
Ancient_Sentinel says... #11
@EverythingIsK I suggest taking out the Phyrexian Ironfoots, as they kinda suck. The only thing I saw they were good for was extra snow permanents, so I suggested Coldsteel Heart as a better alternative.
@WicKid52 I agree that Shrine is not too great here. I personally use Pyroclasm (a 3-of i think), and Anger was really mostly to beat Pod. I guess Anger wouldn't be too bad against the new Abzan decks, where it could kill Voices and Finks. Worth a test I guess.
March 8, 2015 3:36 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #13
Eh, I would rather go for a Banefire so it can't be countered, but I want to avoid those cards anyways because I already had a hard time to get everything I wanted to get into this deck. I wouldn't know what to take out.
May 3, 2015 2:46 p.m.
GeminiSpartanX says... #14
I like your tournament write-up! The only question I have with this list is why only 2 Boros Reckoners? With only 21 lands, it seems like there will be a certain number of games where you'll not have enough mana to cast Stormbreath on time, let alone when playing against Twin and needing to always keep a mana open for their combo. You're also not using Draconic Roar or anything, so would a 3/3 or 4/2 split of Reckoners and Stormbreaths help with consistency at all?
October 5, 2015 2:24 p.m.
I'd wager a 1 of Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx could give you some pretty explosive results.
October 5, 2015 5:35 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #16
@GeminiSpartanX - I only have two Boros Reckoners now because I generally only need one out. Most of the time he eats a path or something, but I usually drop him with 4 mana available, so I can bolt/ Skred him in response. It came down to either sticking with him, or go with the more dragon oriented build and drop them turn after turn. I'd definitely would like more of him, but everything else in the deck is already so tight, and the dragons have more than proved their worth, especially Avaricious Dragon when I'm on top deck mode (but sadly he's the first to go against twin). I rarely ever get mana screwed with 21 lands, and even if I only get 2-3 lands, I can generally survive long enough to wait for that forth. If anything, I would try that 3/3 split you mentioned. I will also definitely try that Draconic Roar, but only if I keep the creature count where it is. I'll keep playing this deck to test its consistency for that.
@kameenook - I'm not really sure if I would want that, but I wouldn't be against trying it sometime. I'll probably put it in place of a Scrying Sheets if anything.
October 5, 2015 9:11 p.m.
It might not seem like a lot, but the games where you're able to surge ahead in mana and dump your hand quickly and/or monstrous Stormbreath Dragon are probably the games you're going to be winning.
October 5, 2015 9:42 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #18
So the Draconic Roar is too clunky. Couldn't really find room for it, nor do I think its the right direction for the deck. I like the Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx so far, but I'll see.
October 7, 2015 6 p.m.
Hey, nice deck.
Eidolon of the Great Revel doesn't fit here. It is for use in fast aggressive burn decks. And you have 25 spells at 3 mana or below, so you are killing yourself without trying to kill your opponent quickly.
What is Relic of Progenitus main deck for? It is a SB card, you can free up those two spots I think.
So now you have 6 spots free. I think an extra 2 Boros Reckoner for devotion, and they are great on defense. Then you need 4 creatures at the CMC 2 spot. The devotion enablers are aggressive (like Eidolon and Ash Zealot), but it seems to me you want to reach midgame to land your bombs. Ash Zealot is actually a nice sideboard option for blue decks, possibly against Junk as well. Maybe Abbot of Keral Keep? He can be aggressive if you want to, otherwise he gives card advantage and helps ensure you don't miss land drops to hit your 4/5 CMC spells on time. I like Abbot a lot.
May 11, 2016 noon
EverythingIsK says... #20
Abbot isn't good in this deck because casting him late game is not optimal because his body is puny, and is a dead card early because my top decks are important. I don't want to exile something I could be casting on curve turns 2-5.
As for eidolon, it's one of the strongest cards in the deck. Damage to me is fine when I'm keeping the board clear and presenting a clock with him, then putting 4+ drops turns afterwards that require removal (which cost 3 mana or less more than likely) will put their life totals even lower.
The reason eidolon works in the deck is because it puts pressure on decks that have low costed spells, and presents a clock if left unchecked. My life total doesn't matter when they don't have a board from me killing all of their creatures and reducing their life totals with shocks and swinging with threats.
As for relic, it's main board because having gy hate to hose delve and snapcaster decks randomly is really good, otherwise, it's a can trip, which is really important to a deck that is casting 2-3 spells a turn.
This deck has moved away from boros reckoner because of all the destroy/ exile effects players use. In a deck lighter on creatures, turning on their removal to not get an affected it makes him less appealing to have 4 of when I can't drop him on curve like other creatures in the deck that contribute to winning the game (which the Wincon is damage, eidolon shocks, regent bolt, stormbreath pro white, etc.)
May 23, 2016 1:54 a.m.
I don't feel like you need THREE Dragon's Claw SB. How do you feel about Chandra, Flamecaller in place of one of them? Card advantage, really fast clock, pinch board clear if you need it, doesn't die to Bolt. I love her and think Skred is the best kind of deck for her!
June 27, 2016 10:21 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #22
I admit 3 dragon's claw is probably too many, but they've really sealed some burn matches for me if I hit 2 of them. Probably could change that I guess. As for Chandra, Flamecaller, I would run her, but 6 mana isn't favourable, even with the ramp I run through koth and SSGs. If I were running a different shell of skred, I'd certainly have at least two copies in it.
June 28, 2016 3:29 a.m.
Ohthenoises says... #23
Any reason you don't run the Eternal Scourge package?
Also, some good tech for the current Death's Shadow meta is Sarkhan. He's great as a 1:1 swap in for Stormbreath in the Terminate meta.
June 6, 2017 8:15 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #24
@Ohthenoises I haven't updated this list in months. My current list runs that package.
As for sarkhan, i think he'd do well in a shadow meta. Certainly good to have to close a game out.
June 6, 2017 8:30 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #25
I also love bringing him in for classic Jund too.
Kills 4 toughness Goyfs, Kalitas', and other threats they have while also being able to bash in and not be terminated
OpenFire says... #1
Volcanic Fallout seems pretty good especially against Delver since they can't counter it.
December 9, 2014 6:56 p.m.