SLIVERS!!!!! SLIVERS!!!!! SLIVERS!!!!!

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Osang says... #1

I posted your deck on a deck help thread, praised it for how good it was while keeping it on a budget, yet, I forgot to upvote. Happy 50th!

December 29, 2013 5:15 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #2

@osang21: I saw that post, and commented on the deck before you posted mine on that thread, but thank you for doing that anyway! Thanks for the upvote!!!

December 29, 2013 5:18 p.m.

slaveofbolas says... #3

Hey,

Great looking Sliver Deck. Slivers see a lot of play in my circle. I think the only thing I'd say is. Prophetic Prism... there has to be a better way to get some card advantage. I know you're not using it for mana fixing. Otherwise everything else is solid. Good deck

December 29, 2013 5:20 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #4

@slaveofbolas: Well, is Nylea's Presence better?

December 29, 2013 5:28 p.m.

slaveofbolas says... #5

I'd like that for utility sake. You have a lot of Theros and M14 right? Maybe Bident of Thassa , or Thassa's Bounty or Divination . Just some basic draw stuff. I know divination is pretty basic but it gets you an extra card for just one colorless.

December 29, 2013 5:48 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #6

@slaveofbolas: So you say I should splash blue?

December 29, 2013 5:49 p.m.

slaveofbolas says... #7

If you're looking for draw mechanics yeah. With Manaweft Sliver or Nylea's Presence you don't even need to add that much in the way of blue mana. Other alternatives beyond splashing would be Wild Guess

December 29, 2013 6:36 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #8

@slaveofbolas: Wild Guess makes me discard, so no. I don't want to be reliant on Manaweft Sliver , but people are trying to take me in an angle that will.


There are two ways this deck can play:

Way 1: T2 Predatory Sliver

Way 2: T2 Manaweft Sliver


What I play on turn 2 really matters, and I don't want to need T2 Manaweft Sliver .

December 29, 2013 6:40 p.m.

slaveofbolas says... #9

Well, maybe that lantern in the deck takes your reliance off Manaweft.

I see what youre going for now. If speed is the utmost importance for you I'd probably just lose the prisms, and probably drop Hive Stirrings too. I'd get that Boros Charms in because there is literally no faster way to do 4 damage, I'd drop sentinel Sliver too and just get in Warrior's Lesson for the draws if you need it and Plummets to deal with the odd flyer that may come up. You could honestly drop two of the Manawefts then. Any card you have 4x of is something you're hoping to have in your starting hand or soon after. If they aren't that important to you might as well lose a few.

December 29, 2013 6:52 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #10

But speed isn't of the utmost importance. This deck is aggro/midrange.

December 29, 2013 7:33 p.m.

slaveofbolas says... #11

I just ran six playtests with the deck. By turn five I had four slivers out. Making use of Manaweft really helps but even where it wasn't in play I still had between three and four slivers. I think your deck can survive at midrange and that plays to its versatility of your deck building for sure.

That said, any deck that can put out three to four creatures that are all at least 3/3 is about speed and its win strategy should be aggro. The longer a game goes the more danger there is to a Sliver player. Turn six and seven is when board wipes become possible. Merciless Evictions, Cyclonic rifts, Mizzium's Mortars ect ect. You're lethal at turn four and just become more lethal. At turn five and six is when the opponent has enough mana to clean your board and mount a come back. What I saying is, its great that you can still play at mid range but if its slivers, you should be playing for the turn six victory. Just to be safe.

December 29, 2013 7:59 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #12

I guess I want to be winning by T7 or T8, because, past that, my threats aren't good enough, right?

December 29, 2013 8:03 p.m.

slaveofbolas says... #13

Its not that they're not good enough, they just don't change. You peak is what I'm saying. The solution to the sliver probably doesn't change by seven. It's board wipe or removal. You don't make it any harder for the opponent to solve the puzzle if you get what I'm saying. And by turn seven a player has gone through close to a third of his deck. If he has a solution to the silver problem there's a good chance its appeared in his hand by then. And most wipes cost around six to seven mana. So assuming he's hit all his land drops theres a good chance that turn six or seven is when the game may swing. And if you've been damaging him consistently up to that point then one Boros Charm should finish him whether he's wiped your board or not. Thats why Boros Charm is so potent. If you can get three of your creatures through at 3/3 then two charms wins you the game.

Just my two cents. Win asap. with Slivers, leave nothing to chance. If you get a board wipe you have to start from scratch. The opponent may not. If he's control you now have an up hill battle to fight. If he's beat stick creatures he has the mana to drop one a turn.

December 29, 2013 8:14 p.m.

malartha says... #14

Love a cool sliver deck. Garruk, Caller of Beasts is the perfect card for a control match up. against control its all about card advantage. If you can keep pulling slivers out and casting them and pairing there buffs with Mutavault (which i would run at least 3 of) you can run over them with just the Mutas!

December 30, 2013 1:46 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #15

@malartha: This deck was made with cards I already own. Garruk, Caller of Beasts and Mutavault are too expensive for me.

December 30, 2013 5:06 p.m.

KYLL_YO says... #16

You need to take out Megantic Sliver and Battle Sliver for Ghor-Clan Rampager and Rubblebelt Maaka . It synergizes so well with Bonescythe Sliver . I would do 4 Ghor-Clan and 2 Rubblebelt.

January 2, 2014 4:38 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #17

Sorry, but:

NO

January 2, 2014 6:38 p.m.

deckdabbleer says... #18

I agree putting in non sliver creature never goes well. I run slivers too and have seen it.

January 2, 2014 11:49 p.m.

deckdabbleer says... #19

I like battle sliver myself it works great with bonescythe

January 2, 2014 11:52 p.m.

Matsi883 says... #20

@deckdabbleer: It does.

January 3, 2014 6:52 a.m.

gamebeast91 says... #21

I dont think you need Battle Sliver because two predatory slivers are just as good but, instead run Bow of Nylea with Thorncaster Sliver so when you attack you can insta kill the arggo guys with Thorncaster Sliver 's ability

January 3, 2014 9:07 a.m.

Matsi883 says... #22

@gamebeast91: Look at my "Do Not Suggest" tab.

January 3, 2014 9:17 a.m.

gamebeast91 says... #23

oh lol sorry Matsi883

January 3, 2014 12:21 p.m.

MrWorldwide says... #24

I have a sliver deck myself, and i found out good idea for mana fixing. Put in some amount of Shimmering Grotto (if 4 is not enough, remember also about Unknown Shores ). Then you have more place in main board for more aggresive cards. Magma Jet s, Giant Growth s, maybe even some Doom Blade s, Devour Flesh es or even Dreadbore s if you want to splash black for removals. About sideboard, maybe replace Plummet with Windstorm ? Plummets needs less mana, but storm can hit multiple flyers at once. I would also put Destructive Revelry , mainly to handle with pesky enchantments/artifacts, mainly god's weapons. Maybe putting sentinels to main by kicking dorks as i said earlier? Anyway, +1 from me

January 4, 2014 10:03 a.m.

Matsi883 says... #25

The thing with Shimmering Grotto is that it doesn't tap for colors and to fix, the net mana is -1.

Magma Jet and Giant Growth are unnecessary and I'm not splashing black.

Plummet kills Desecration Demon . Windstorm doesn't.

The god's weapons aren't a very big problem, so no Destructive Revelry .

January 4, 2014 4:23 p.m.

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