I thought Brave the Sands was a huge asset to White Weenie, maybe you could consider a couple of slots for it. Chump block for days!
September 15, 2014 11:30 p.m.
I see Brave the Sands as a sideboard card since it's so defensive. I added a pair to the side
September 16, 2014 12:25 a.m.
Maybe I'll have Preeminent Captain somewhere in the 75, but in playtesting, he hasn't done well. I also don't know what I'd take out
September 16, 2014 6:19 p.m.
Sauceybiscuits says... #6
I've been brewing around a green/white/black build with a soldier theme. With all the mana fixing its pretty easy to get there. Maybe look into it, with Stormbreath Dragon around this deck may have a huge flaw with the jund or red green monsters build.
September 21, 2014 4:21 p.m.
Any consideration to Raise the Alarm ? It's a good card on a strictly vanilla level, however it also lets you get double value out of all your anthems. And it lets you TURBO CHARGE out your Obelisk of Urd 's.
I'd also consider a 2 of Eidolon of Countless Battles . It's extremely underrated, and has yet to get a chance to shine on any competitive level.
September 27, 2014 2:24 p.m.
Raise the Alarm does too little here imo, as does Eidolon of Countless Battles . The way the deck is set up, I use cards to make relatively big creatures as opposed to swarming the field with smaller ones. If I decide to change the deck to a more hyper-aggro style, those will probably find their way in.
September 27, 2014 2:33 p.m.
matrix1312 says... #9
what about Ainok Bond-Kin instead of Ajani's Pridemate in order to make Abzan Falconer ,Herald of Anafenza and High Sentinels of Arashin , just that much better, as well as Ajani Steadfast
September 28, 2014 9:30 p.m.
Ainok Bond-Kin is a possibility, but I really don't like the 1 toughness on him combined with the 2-mana Outlast. When every creature wants to get bigger, the starting toughness matters because I need to invest more mana/resources to make it able to live past things like Bile Blight , Anger of the Gods , Drown in Sorrow , Lightning Strike , etc. And at the end of the day, first strike isn't as important as flying
September 29, 2014 2:26 p.m.
matrix1312 says... #11
have you ever had to deal with a rabblemaster? The one toughness on Ainok Bond-Kin doesent really matter, you have so many ways to pump your guys that the small toughness effect things. you also have to think about turn ten, what would you like to draw, a mana sink like an ainok or a vanilla 2/2
September 29, 2014 3:52 p.m.
There's a ton of mana sinks already in the deck, but I see what you're saying. First strike would be ideal against Goblin Rabblemaster . I'll try him instead of pridemate, though lifegain does happen (scarcely) in this deck, so he's not exactly vanilla
September 29, 2014 5:59 p.m.
SandwichMan007 says... #13
I dont know how good Herald of Anafenza is in this deck. he soaks up all of your mana, even if you do have a nykthos on the battlefield. And I strongly recommend Launch the Fleet but only if you run heroic creatures. Favored Hoplite is a good example of this. Overall though, Its strong.
September 29, 2014 8:05 p.m.
Why would Herald of Anafenza soak up all my mana? I don't need to Outlast him every turn. I'd only Outlast when I can't attack favorably with it AND I have nothing better to do with my mana. I imagine most turn 3s will be me playing Brimaz, King of Oreskos or Abzan Falconer . If they're pressuring me with an early beater, I have a choice between Outlasting and getting a token to chump block, or playing another creature instead.
Heroic is too fragile and disadvantageous IMO, I'd rather use creatures that are fine on their own and get bigger by using mana, not cards AND mana.
September 29, 2014 8:13 p.m.
matrix1312 says... #15
have you thought about Devouring Light with incidental tokens floating around and the jeskai tempo deck being soo aggresive on turn 3 with Mantis Rider having an instant speed removal spell for those kind of threats could be handy as well as handily exiling Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker when it tries to crash in
September 29, 2014 8:20 p.m.
I've thought about it, I just don't really have much space, and I don't produce a ton of tokens. It's a definite inclusion if I end up seeing a need for it
September 29, 2014 8:27 p.m.
Coordinated Assault + Phalanx Leader + Akroan Crusader . High Sentinels of Arashin + Preeminent Captain . For extra support, Hammerhand Defiant Strike . Launch the Fleet , Raise the Alarm . Dude you could have some righteous soldiers. Ephemeral Shields or others to protect your Leader, capt and and to make your other 4 drops free and your game and you have a shit ton of flying soldiers with a bunch of +1/+1 counters on them. Splashing red gives you Chained to the Rocks as well. After though, Dauntless Onslaught Phalanx Formation
September 29, 2014 9:57 p.m.
abbadonsilver says... #18
I don't know how to tag my deck but I just put it up. If you click on my name I assume you can see it. Maybe you can get some inspiration from it. It actual doesn't use any Khans cards though they would be helpful if I had them.
September 29, 2014 10:06 p.m.
comvocaloid says... #19
I'm building a very similar style myself, but I'm going with a more Abzan-oriented focus (tri-color). Seeing as you have a lot of synergy in this deck with +1/+1 counters, in say Abzan Falconer
, Ainok Bond-Kin
, and High Sentinels of Arashin
, I would definitely drop out Soldier of the Pantheon
for example, and add in Phalanx Leader
instead. I can understand why Soldier of the Pantheon is included because of the number of multi-colors in the new set, but I think it plays too slow and doesn't flow with your deck. You can consider green splash, considering adding something like Ajani, Mentor of Heroes
and Incremental Growth
for a closer in turn 5, since your white mana curve at most needs 2 white mana, meaning you can supplement with a bit of green.
Ajani mentor will let you pump 3 units up instantly for Abzan Falconer + Ainok Bond-Kin in case you dont have Spear of Heliod or Obelisk of Urd on the field, of which, the total being 3 of 60 cards, so a 5% likelihood. In this regard, you might want to also consider including more of these and dropping some other dud cards that don't flow with your deck. The objective of this deck seems like it should be to really focusing on blasting out counters whenever possible.
Personal preference would be to also drop Herald of Anafenza and Vanguard of Brimaz (the latter especially if you swap in Phalanx). Herald is a mana-sink and you can't afford to waste 3 mana to pump up a minion for a 1/1 token - you can get a lot better out of that. And Vanguard has no reason to be here as you don't have an ability that specifically "targets" him (putting down spear of heliod or Obelisk shouldn't trigger this effect), so you will never get the cat soldier tokens. Swap him out potentially for Feat of Resistance and it will really sync well with Phalanx Leader . Your suggestion of Kinsbaile Skirmisher is also a good possible add to the deck, and will help steady out your curve for 2 mana.
October 1, 2014 3:32 p.m.
The point of the deck is not to blast out counters. It's to win.
Soldier of the Pantheon helps me win. He can also benefit from the Outlast lords via High Sentinels of Arashin and Ajani Steadfast .
Phalanx Leader would be pretty useless in this deck, as I don't have much that triggers heroic. The only cards I have in the mainboard are currently Ajani's Presence , which do indeed serve to trigger Vanguard of Brimaz if the situation arises.
Spear of Heliod and Obelisk of Urd have nothing to do with Abzan Falconer and Ainok Bond-Kin . +1/+1 does not mean the same thing as a +1/+1 counter.
I don't want to splash green for more counters, I'd rather keep it mono-white and utilize Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx to pump out my hand and use the mana sinks already in the deck. I also don't want to make this deck focused on Heroic
Thank you for the suggestions.
October 1, 2014 4:06 p.m.
Took it to its first FNM tonight. Performed very well, but I didn't have 2 copies of Brimaz and 1 copy of Ajani. Ran Preeminent Captain , Raise the Alarm , and an extra Obelisk of Urd instead. I enjoyed both Raise the Alarm and Preeminent Captain , but didn't see any Obelisks. Spear of Heliod performed excellently, as did most of the deck. I'm considering the following changes:
Replace Obelisk of Urd
with Dictate of Heliod
.
Use Suspension Field
mainboard over Banishing Light
.
Find a way to have one or two copies of Preeminent Captain
in the mainboard.
Possibly add a 4th Ajani Steadfast
.
Possibly add a Wingmate Roc
somewhere in the 75 (pulled one with my price packs).
Finding a spot for Devouring Light
s in the 75.
Considering Deicide
over Erase
.
October 10, 2014 11:57 p.m.
Cards that didn't shine: Obelisk of Urd , Ainok Bond-Kin , Banishing Light .
Cards that met my expectations: Abzan Falconer , Herald of Anafenza , Vanguard of Brimaz , Brimaz, King of Oreskos , Soldier of the Pantheon , High Sentinels of Arashin .
Cards that exceeded my expectations: Spear of Heliod , Ajani Steadfast , Raise the Alarm , Preeminent Captain , Suspension Field , Erase .
Biggest problem with Raise the Alarm is that it doesn't increase devotion; biggest upside is that I get more value out of my anthems and Ajani Steadfast .
October 11, 2014 12:15 a.m.
i see you have all the creatures soldiers but dont benefit from it in any way you should add stuff in thatll take advantage of having all one creature type
October 12, 2014 12:06 a.m.
Ezra-Andersen says... #24
Since this is semi-devotion, you should at least try to fit in a few Evangel of Heliod . I would leave Ajani Steadfast as a three of. I might also try to make Dictate of Heliod at least two of, seeing as it can get very nasty when stacked.
October 12, 2014 12:28 a.m.
fortheglory says... #25
Hey dude nice build here. I run a similar deck and have a few suggestions. 1) make some room for Phalanx Leader and some Gods Willing to trigger him. He works great with outlast guys to get them online earlier than waiting for Ajani Steadfast .
2) for removal I like Devouring Light . The convoke is so easy to pull off and it makes a great play with Raise the Alarm .
3) the more Obelisk of Urd you have means less threats you crowd the board with. An anthem does nothing for an empty board. Consider less of these for more threats.
4) control match up can be back breaking but I found if you lower your curve and jam threat after threat then hold up Ajani's Presence for the End Hostilities they always have turn five or six. You can kill them before they can control you.
Goody says... #1
The 2/2 body on Preeminent Captain isn't strong enough to swing favorably. A lot of times I'll be swinging into a bigger blocker (can swing at earliest turn 4) and simply trading the 2/2 for the biggest soldier I have in hand. It can be a good card in control matchups or something, but against creature decks (probably the majority of the upcoming metagame) it'll be a bad attacker that will just sit there.
The creatures in this deck generally only get bigger a bit later in the game, perhaps turns 5-7. At that point I should have already played out my hand and mana won't be a big issue.
Right now I don't see the benefit of having him in the deck. I playtested with him but it's pretty pointless since the most expensive soldier costs 4 mana, 1 more than the captain itself
September 15, 2014 11:29 p.m.