you monster..
also, maybe cut a Sandsteppe Citadel for a Shambling Venti think the extra manland adds more benefits over a tap tri-land with the current fixing
September 25, 2015 7:10 a.m.
Losing a source isn't a good idea though. The deck is super green heavy.
26 lands is important for consistency, in terms of both colour fixing and having enough mana to cast everything when I need to. Abzan isn't a "normal" aggro deck, because I have no 1 or 2 cmc creatures (Den Protector counts as 5cmc not 2), so having 4 mana by turn 4 is critical.
September 25, 2015 4:22 p.m.
In place of, perhaps not, but Gideon, Ally of Zendikar is a good idea here. Thanks!
September 29, 2015 12:05 p.m.
Scott_Anderson says... #8
Gideon is good in aggro, midrange, and decent in control. I think he's better than Sorin, but he's different too. He's not a direct 1-for-1 upgrade, and he may not be right for your list. Gideon is certainly harder to use than Sorin.
September 29, 2015 1:25 p.m.
Scott_Anderson says... #10
Warden is efficient but don't expect to progress him past his first level up.
September 29, 2015 9:29 p.m.
I don't. I've played both with and against him before. Activation of the 3rd ability happens often enough, but it resolves only rarely (though more often now that Lightning Strike, Bile Blight, and Hero's Downfall are rotating, I think).
September 29, 2015 9:40 p.m.
AngelOfDivinity says... #12
(responds with Brutal Expulsion, bouncing it and killing a Rack-Shack-Death-Cat you don't have mana to regenerate.)
September 29, 2015 10:46 p.m.
I have set of Warden of the First Tree, the good thing about this card is you can upgrade him in an instant.
Also rather than a Jungle Hollow, try Mortuary Mire... Both enters tap but this land would put back a creature from your graveyard to you on your next turn, lets say Hangarback Walker.
L8ke your Deck... See mine here Gideon joins Abzan Aggro
October 3, 2015 9:13 a.m.
I like Mortuary Mire, but I really don't like losing the source because it is such an important colour to the deck. I'll consider it, though :)
October 3, 2015 10:26 a.m.
I've been testing a lot against R/G Omnath decks, and Warden of the First Tree kicks serious ass. I have never heard of him living to activate his last ability so consistently in a matchup, even in versions running 3-4 each of Roast and Crater's Claws.
October 5, 2015 8:02 a.m. Edited.
Drana plays super well in a creature heavy deck like this (especially with undergrowth champion) and so does Gideon. I think she's an auto include for almost any deck with black
October 8, 2015 11:38 a.m.
Chainer_the_Dementia_Master says... #20
Guess everyone is back on the train to rhino town -_-
Played 3 Abzan lists tonight, and one of em stalled me out of top 8. Super salty lol
October 10, 2015 4:59 a.m.
I do think Drana would be great, as well as Gideon. I just don't have any right now!
Lol! Sorry to hear that, man :p
RhinoTown is just too synonymous with ValueTown.
October 10, 2015 12:31 p.m.
Chainer_the_Dementia_Master says... #22
It's value meal after value meal until your opponent concedes. You can't blame anyone for playing it, it just makes a really boring format.
On a related note, here's how Siege Rhino was born :)
https://youtu.be/sU-h5gGSUtQ
October 10, 2015 6:11 p.m.
I swear, if that is Ace Ventura...
Edit:
lol, that video is hilarious.
October 10, 2015 9:34 p.m. Edited.
Chainer_the_Dementia_Master says... #24
You now know how Siege Rhino was born :)
October 10, 2015 11:34 p.m.
AngelOfDivinity says... #25
I love how one of the comments is this:
"i still dont understand the siege rhino meme it looks like a pretty powerful 4 drop, even for a rare....but then you realize its 3 color and only works full potential in a multiplayer match. ehh, ive seen worse"
I left the fully intact; I want to be original to the source. Mainly adding this addendum to clarify that the capitalization and punctuation errors are entirely on his part; not mine.
AngelOfDivinity says... #1
This deck is vacuum-packed with value.
September 24, 2015 11:05 p.m.