archon123_ says... #3
maybe Volcanic Island instead of Steam Vents? Otherwise good list
August 8, 2015 9:09 p.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #4
That's because of budget lol I need to get the FoWs first
Thanks!
August 8, 2015 9:16 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #5
+1 because Spaghettis :)
EDIT: isn't two Boseiju a bit much though? I mean, you already have counters to win the counter war... It just seems a bit unnecessary.
August 13, 2015 1:35 p.m. Edited.
ThisIsBullshit says... #7
Yeah I'll have to do some more testing with that. I'm not sure I like Boseiju in the board much at all, so we'll just have to see.
August 13, 2015 1:46 p.m.
Im not that into Sneak and Show, never played it, never played against it and never looked into the decklist, so im not an expert on this deck. But is 3 Spaghetti Monsters and 2 griselbutts enough? I would play 4 Griselbutt and 2-3 Spaghettis..
September 10, 2015 11:49 a.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #9
Griselbutt...that's a new one lol
I haven't really run into a problem - with all the Brainstorms, Ponders, Preordains, and the 3 Dig Through Time gets me to them pretty quickly.
I used to run 4 of each but that was way too many, so I cut it down and it's working for me.
September 10, 2015 11:54 a.m.
filledelanuit says... #10
I think you need 4 Griselbrand. He is by far the better S&T target. I would add 2 Grizzlebees and cut a Pasta Monster. In addition, I think Daze sucks. Because you need a lot of mana (for a legacy deck) to go off with protection bouncing a land is a cost you can't afford to pay. I would 1 Misdirection because it is just as good in counter wars as force and you can blow people out with Hymn or Thoughtseize.
September 10, 2015 12:19 p.m.
With 4 Lotus Petal and 4 lands that tap for , you need more griselbutts. You dont want to Ponder or Dig Through Time into him if you have the chance to turn 1 Show and Tell.
September 10, 2015 12:24 p.m.
Also, are Mox Diamond or Chrome Mox something to consider?
Turn 1: Ancient Tomb -> "mox" -> Show and Tell -> Griselbrand -> draw 7 or 14
Turn 2: Volcanic Island -> 3x "moxes" -> Sneak Attack -> Spaghetti -> Win
Adding more "moxes" increases your chance for a T2 win. And by "mox" i mean thing that cost 0 mana and taps for 1 mana :)
September 10, 2015 12:39 p.m.
replace 1 Flusterstorm mainboard with 1 more Daze, and replace 1 in the side with Surgical Extraction. not sure why you have your creatures also in the board, where would you bring them in? need to increase Chalice of the Void to 3 in the board, you need to board all 3 in to make sure you can hit it early. (I think you are planning to bring in against delver?). replace one of your creatures with Koth of the Hammer, miracles cannot deal with him very well
September 10, 2015 12:52 p.m.
pleasiodmakerblooloo says... #14
Often what I've known to happen with sneak and show decks, as opposed to their sister deck Omni-tell, is that they might get something like an Emrakul, the Aeons Torn into play, attack, shuffle him and then never draw him again. A cool but admittedly new, and possibly controversial, idea I have for your deck might be to play 1-2 Evolutionary Leap to cycle through once you've attacked and get a creature straight into your hand.
September 10, 2015 4:44 p.m.
zyphermage says... #15
Personally here is what I would do.+2 Gitaxian Probe +2 Griselbrand-2 Daze-1 Sneak Attack-1 Dig Through Time
Definitely needs 4 of probe. It checks if coast is clear and digs deeper for win cons. the play set of griselbrand basically replaces loss of the 1 dig. That is for card draw reasons and just simply being a piece you are looking for already. Daze I do not think is great in this deck It seems like it if you have combo pieces in hand, but you aren't even running the full playest of the combo creatures to begin with. So that scenario is even less likely. In the chance you don't have the combo and go more turns daze becomes a handicap. You need more combo pieces really instead of daze. I think 2 is a better number for digs, 3 may be too clunky. I dropped 1 sneak attack because I feel like there are enough drawing options. I think more often you are looking for a creature.
September 10, 2015 7:50 p.m.
grumbledore says... #16
pleasiodmakerblooloo - the legacy version of Evolutionary Leap is Survival of the Fittest. I don't think Evolutionary Leap would do very well in legacy as it requires a creature in play, which makes it much slower :/
September 11, 2015 3:21 a.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #17
Thanks to everyone for the help!
smackjack is the card loss worth the extra mana? During my testing of this deck, I find myself running out of cards, and the moxes would only exacerbate that.
Khanye the sideboard was a disaster - just ignore it lol
pleasiodmakerblooloo I haven't had an issue with that - the "not drawing Emrakul" is something of a non-problem considering I just domed my opponent for 15 plus annihilator six
zyphermage I dunno, I like the 3-of DTT, and I like keeping Sneak Attack as a playset.
I did go up to a playset of Griselbrand, however.
What do you guys think of the 2x Preordain? It seems meh to me, and then I can add the last two Probes if I take them out.
September 12, 2015 11:31 p.m.
TheLitchKing says... #18
Out of curiosity, what do you typically Intuition for?
December 17, 2015 1:17 a.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #19
3 Emrakuls, 3 Griselbrands, 3 counterspells, 3 cantrips, whatever.
Since it's a one-of I don't see it much.
December 17, 2015 9:52 a.m.
grumbledore says... #21
how does this hold up against decks like miracles and such? I'm thinking about wanting another legacy deck. jund isn't very competitive... would be nice to win some times :)
December 18, 2015 2:24 a.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #22
scrotality sorry man I totally didn't see your comment - it holds up alright against miracles. Really the only matches I have trouble with are reanimator, the mirror match, and Death and Taxes. However, I'm not a pro at legacy or at playing this deck, so I'm sure I could win the reanimator/mirror matches with more practice.
Death and taxes matchup just blows for Sneak and Show
January 2, 2016 2 p.m.
DarksteelBadger says... #25
Most lists that I've seen run 4 of the great and holy creator of Midgets and God of Pirates, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. Is there a reason for that?
nayrash5 says... #1
You should drop a Mountain in favour of an Island, you only have one thing that requires red, and all of the Draw fixing costs Blue.
July 22, 2015 6:27 p.m.