Snakesyndrome says... #2
Hey there, really like the deck :) What matchup would you side in Gideon, Ally of Zendikar ? And what would you take out ?
September 13, 2016 3:54 a.m.
He comes in against control decks and delirium decks, mainly as a tool to recover from Languish and his emblem to protect against Liliana, the Last Hope. I would take out the Nebelgast Herald and Reflector Mage for Gideon and Negate.
September 13, 2016 8:06 a.m.
Brandon_Me1 says... #4
So you got a cool U/W walker.
Too bad he the opposite of aggressive.
September 13, 2016 11:27 a.m.
Brandon_Me1 says... #6
Any chance of that Counter spell that bounces a permanent of yours replacing the Command?
September 14, 2016 7:37 a.m.
Nope, I don't really see it. If it had cost two, sure. But not 1UU.
September 14, 2016 8:07 a.m.
Brandon_Me1 says... #8
Yeah that's what I was thinking. It could have been playable at 2. you could do some interesting things with it for sure.
September 14, 2016 11:05 a.m.
You can abuse Rattlechains or Topplegeist with it, or even possibly Nebelgast Herald or Archangel Avacyn Flip (the cost is getting up there however), but in most cases an Essence Flux will be more interesting in your hand.
September 14, 2016 11:24 a.m.
Amazing Deck man, I have won tournaments because of you. I have found however that having 2 [blessed alliance] in the deck works amazingly because life gain and the opponents sacs a creature. I have also found that adding [uninvited guest] works great too because you now how a unblock-able creature on the field which really helps take the focus off of your main spirits. Let me know what you think.
September 17, 2016 1:05 a.m.
Thanks man. I prefer Declaration in Stone, since we are more of an aggressor and want to pass through their defenders. Blessed Alliance is great against aggressive decks, which is why it's in the sideboard for me.
Uninvited Geist Flip is an interesting addition. Not particularly a fan (it never did what I wanted it to do in limited), but a good idea nonetheless, if it works for you.
Now, as for rotation, the only card I lose is Ojutai's Command. It's a big loss, but survivable, since it's only 2 copies. However, I have not seen cards I want to include right now. There are a couple of good Blue counterspells, but I think I'm going toward a more aggressive build, lowering the mana cost and going from 24 to 23 lands. What I am thinking right now for the deck post rotation is:
- Take Out: 2x Ojutai's Command, 1x Archangel Avacyn Flip, 1x Island. Probably the 2x Dispel in the side (they were there against CoCo).
- Bring in: the fourth Reflector Mage, 3rd Always Watching , 3rd Declaration in Stone and 3rd Essence Flux (or perhaps 3rd Bygone Bishop).
- Other possibilities: Unsubstantiate in the main deck and Collective Effort in the side. Insidious Will I think is too slow for the deck (though I could see it get some play). Fumigate instead of Planar Outburst, though I doubt the upside on either matters much in this deck. Revolutionary Rebuff is probably the best card I'm leaving out of this deck: I could very well see a Spirits deck with 3 or 4. Smuggler's Copter is probably very good in this deck as well, though I'm wary of vehicles at the moment.
Two weeks to go to rotation.
September 17, 2016 9:27 a.m.
RyuujiTakasu says... #12
After looking at new cards, interested in Fumigate because the life gain can help, Authority of the consuls to slow opponent and get in some life gain (and i mean, its only a 1 drop), Ceremonious Rejection for the sideboard, Glimmer of Genius because of instant speed and scry, Revolutionary Rebuff i will run, and considering Select for Inspection.
September 17, 2016 11:41 a.m.
The problem with Select for Inspection is the "tapped" clause, otherwise I would run it. You want to remove potential blockers in a tempo deck, not attackers IMHO.
September 17, 2016 11:49 a.m.
RyuujiTakasu says... #14
Played against a UB zombies as well, the Voldaren Pariah Flip they ran surprised and hurt me , needed Stasis Snare for that 1. 1 game just turned up to a straight up race between mausoleums/selfless spirits and his relentless deads/cryptbreaker.
September 17, 2016 11:52 a.m.
RyuujiTakasu says... #15
I know thats why im stil iffy about it, but i do like the scry. But of course, with tapped clause i will still be running Immolating Glare or Blessed Alliance instead.
September 17, 2016 11:58 a.m.
Brandon_Me1 says... #16
I got to play a deck quite like this last night. It plays really well for sure. Always Watching really is a game winner.
September 23, 2016 11:13 p.m.
I'm also thinking about 2x Topplegeist and 2x Smuggler's Copter to smooth down the mana curve, probably in exchange to a Reflector Mage or two, a Declaration in Stone and a Nebelgast Herald.
September 27, 2016 2:33 p.m.
RyuujiTakasu says... #18
Topplegeist aren't really worth it, their useless played turn 1 and are really only good with a Rattlechains. Smuggler's Copter is good though, also thought about running Fleetwheel Cruiser for the surprise damage and to be 4 drop in the deck.
September 27, 2016 9:33 p.m.
Yes, Topplegeist is not great, but I wanted to lower the curve (too much 3 drops), and it works just fine with Always Watching and Smuggler's Copter. I will test it, even if I'm not sure about it.
September 27, 2016 9:39 p.m.
CapitonMurfish says... #20
Topplegeist isn't great, but paired with the rest of the deck makes for interesting blow-outs especially with Nebelgast Herald + Rattlechainsand any ETB affects. I do like it with the smuggler but not sure with the equipment.
September 28, 2016 8:53 p.m.
CapitonMurfish says... #21
Insidious Will I believe would make a good replacement to ojutai, just in the fact that it still basically does the same thing minus the returning of creatures.
It is however able to keep all you dudes in play against sweepers and blanket burn and even certain creatures (I.E. GearHulks)
September 29, 2016 12:50 a.m.
Would you consider running 4 neblegast heralds, and 2 reflector mages? Thoughts?
September 29, 2016 12:40 p.m.
Yes, in this deck, Nebelgast Herald is generally better.
September 29, 2016 9:25 p.m.
RyuujiTakasu says... #24
Won a match against a modern infect deck with Nebelgast Herald and Spell Queller lol. Tapped out the infect attackers and countered the buff spells.
Spinifex says... #1
I'm hoping for something else in the new set, otherwise it's going to be a couple of Stasis Snare or Unsubstantiate.
September 6, 2016 11:28 a.m.