Haha, I appreciate you re-considering my suggestion! Deck looks solid. +1
April 20, 2012 2:08 p.m.
bigapple3am says... #6
Deck looks awesome. Too bad you cant give Mirran Crusader double doublestrike with Silverblade Paladin.
Dying to team up Silverblade Paladin with Wolfir Silverheart
April 20, 2012 4:33 p.m.
MitchellSocks says... #7
Will be so trolling to team Silverblade Paladin with Nightshade Peddler
April 20, 2012 5:55 p.m.
Yep, the soulbound combinations in this deck are ridiculous.
Do you guys think this deck would be able to compete for top 8? I can build decks, but I'm completely inexperienced when it comes to the standard meta game.
April 20, 2012 6:31 p.m.
boston-boy says... #9
I would say it could go top 8 because I like it a lot but at the same time, I don't think so because of all the other decks that went top 8 at dka last year, and how they would use new cards like wolfir for their advantages as well. Although you could add some killer cards like, Sword of War and Peace or maybe a Primeval Titan since you do have the mana ramp for it, and him mixed with either wolfir or paladin would be so overkill but fun.
If you could check out mine and give some suggestions that would be good cause im trying to make a good innistrad block deck right now deck:whitegreen-innistrad-constructed
April 20, 2012 7:06 p.m.
How are you going to combat flyers???
I love the deck idea though :) +1
April 20, 2012 8:19 p.m.
I would force them to fight my guys with Ulvenwald Tracker's ability.
April 20, 2012 8:21 p.m.
I also have Mighty Leap I can use for blocking and Angelic Destiny.
April 20, 2012 8:23 p.m.
MetaphysicalxProdigy says... #14
Woah, this deck is pretty solid. Nice work of using Descendants' Path and some of the new creatures.
If I may make a suggestion, why not use something like Faith's Shield or Apostle's Blessing instead of Mighty Leap? If you need to swing through with a double-striker, that works for evasion just as well. Not to mention how it can work defensively in your favor too, especially with all of the new removal (including, ugh, miracle removal) that is/will be out there. Just a thought.
Also, maybe switch out Nightshade Peddler or Wolfir Silverheart for Thalia, Guardian of Thraben. Since this is such a rapid-deployment, creature-focused deck you really want to make sure the cards keep it that way, and she will help immensely with messing up your opponent's tempo. Sorry in advance if this discussion has occurred beforehand already. Also, no Fiend Hunter? Or is Ulvenwald Tracker your removal?
Otherwise, this is very well-made and probably the foundation I am going to build off of once all the cards of Avacyn Restored are released.
+1
April 20, 2012 8:47 p.m.
Yep, Ulvenwald Tracker is my main creature removal. With my humans being buffed or bonded with deathtouch I can kill any of their creatures no problem.
April 20, 2012 9:18 p.m.
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to be a prick, just trying to help you combat all the weaknesses of this deck :)
2 big ones!
Day of judgementRatchet bomb
They are this decks biggest weakness
Nice deck love it but
April 20, 2012 10:26 p.m.
Well, since Ratchet Bomb is usually in the sideboard, I have my Stony Silence and Naturalize in the sideboard.
As for the Day of Judgment, I'm working on finding a solution to that. I'm currently thinking about adding Angel of Glory's Rise to the mainboard.
Ether way, I don't really think Day of Judgment is a game ender for me.
April 20, 2012 10:44 p.m.
If spirit tokens are really a common problem for you, then Corrosive Gale is what you are looking for. Two or three mana for a one-sided board wipe.
However, unless a large portion of your metagame is Lingering Souls decks, I would advise just trying to race them. Sword of War and Peace is extremely useful for that.
April 20, 2012 11:59 p.m.
Terminus will destroy this deck :( we need to solve that
April 21, 2012 2:40 a.m.
+1 from me. The only changes I would make is with the mana base and the Angelic Destiny/Faith's Shield. I would go
-2 Plains
-1 Forest
I am also not too sure about Thalia, Guardian of Thraben. It seems your deck is supposed to be about rapid creature deployment and Thalia destroys your turn 3 play of a Descendants' Path if you have no ramp. I know in my meta, ramp doesn't survive more than one turn unless i'm lucky. Faith's Shield also seemed like a dead card most of the time while running through turns. One of the big techs in the new set appears to be white exile effects, which leads me into Angelic Destiny.
If you have it attached to a creature and they do a cloud shift or angel blink or the rare white miracle it is gone for good as the creatures never die. And you cant give the creature pro-white or the enchantment falls off anyway.
I would consider:
+2 Sword of War and Peace/+2 Hero of Bladehold
I think this deck could go top 8 with the right tinkering for your local meta. You have definitely given me something to consider when the new set comes out.
April 21, 2012 10:28 a.m.
I'm going to work for 4 hours, I'll be back to work on this with you guys right after that.
April 21, 2012 10:54 a.m.
boston-boy says... #22
sindiin you're right, i have a similar deck that im trying to keep innistrad constructed only but Sword of War and Peace is a very good crad too bad it's so damn expensive (40-50 $$$$ i think ) which really blows :(
April 21, 2012 2:02 p.m.
I really don't like the idea of getting rid of one of my Cavern of Souls, but it might be ok.
I could use Faith's Shield to prevent single bounce backs, but what could I use to counter Terminus? Idk, I might not have to worry about it since, they have to bounce their creatures as well and if I have Descendants' Path on the field, I can just refill the field again with creatures.
I've also been considering Surgical Extraction, but it has no synergy with the rest of the deck.
The thing I like most about this deck is that it will still be playable after m12 rotates. Who knows, maybe better.
April 21, 2012 2:50 p.m.
boston-boy says... #24
yeah too bad the things that will cycle out of this deck in october are Mirran Crusader, Sword of War and Peace, Sunpetal Grove, and Razorverge Thicket, which are really good :(
April 21, 2012 3:40 p.m.
M12 doesn't rotate until October, the same time as the Scars block, at which point you lose a lot of your cards and have to rebuild your deck to a new metagame. Just focus on the current format.
, or Birds of Paradise?
It's basically just a Condemn on turn two, which is nothing to panic about. If they topdeck Terminus in the late game, well, they would just hardcast it anyway, and you'll still get wrathed. They just get a minor tempo boost, other than that, it's the same as if they topdecked a plain old Day of Judgment.
My whole point here is that you don't need to play around Terminus any differently from how you already play around Day of Judgment and Black Sun's Zenith.
I would recommend the following changes to your deck:
OUT: 4 Descendants' Path, 4 Faith's Shield, 4 Ulvenwald Tracker, 2 Nightshade Peddler, 3 Hamlet Captain, 2 Wolfir Silverheart, 1 Forest
IN: 2 Sunpetal Grove, 1 Razorverge Thicket, 4 Birds of Paradise, 1 Mirran Crusader, 2 Hero of Bladehold, 3 Oblivion Ring, 2 Fiend Hunter, 3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, 2 Grand Abolisher
Descendants' Path is too much of a win-more card; it is only really useful if you are ahead on board, and isn't very good at helping you recover from a bad spot. Faith's Shield is the same, it isn't helpful unless you are already in a good position. Other than that, I just think that there are better options than what you have. Fiend Hunter is better creture-based removal than Ulvenwald Tracker. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben and Grand Abolisher disrupt your opponent, adding 4 Birds of Paradise helps to give you more consistently explosive starts, and Hero of Bladehold is the best finisher this deck could have.
For the sideboard, I don't understand the inclusion of Curse of Exhaustion at all. I would recommend -3 Curse of Exhaustion, -2 Celestial Purge, +2 Leonin Relic-Warder, +2 Angelic Destiny, +1 Grand Abolisher.
theonyc says... #1
wtf is the says... that is 2 comments before this 1, nice deck seems fun
April 19, 2012 12:27 p.m.