okay, well Teferi's Veil will let you keep the guys you steal. so will Sundial of the Infinite

Ahh yes they will work great. Thats good stuff

see? method to the madness

Roil Elemental

OH! no Explosive Vegetation? its great ramp and all green needs it. also, World at War

I feel like Goblin Bombardment is not nearly as good as your other sac outlets as it only deals 1.

@Cpt.McMilligan, Goblin Bombardment is a free sac, free sac are important for Insurrection, Mob Rule, and Mass Mutiny. name a better free sac to replace it with, and i will.

im thinking about taking Arcanis the Omnipotent out cause i don't like that its legendary it hurts that i got so many legendarys in here for my copy spells. but i DO like its draw 3 cards cause there is a lack of card draw sometimes but i also dont want any less creatures then i have now

@griffstick. Oops I wasn't really thinking about the cost of sacrificing. Though compared to your other free sacs it is still gives you the least benefit. Maybe compensate with a tutor so you can get a better one like Ashnod's Altar?

i'll switch Goblin Bombardment out for Sundial of the Infinite or Teferi's Veil which is better than a sac cause ill get to keep them

whoops, missed the "budget" tag :-/ Anyway, Acquire is cheaper and can target the colossus too :P

That was in the og build, prob could go back in. Since i own that one im gonna test it out.

You should consider adding Strionic Resonator to this deck. You commented on my deck Yasova that it doesn't work but Yasova's ability is indeed a triggered ability and who wouldn't want to double it!

Also I am going to "borrow" some ideas from your deck here to add to my own, though I will have to leave some out since this is not exactly a budget deck.

Yes it has a triggered ability in it but in the triggered ability there is an activated ability. Thats not copied. Strionic Resonator does not copy and steal another creature infact you would only be wasting 2 mana to copy her triggered ability, the activated abiliy is what steals creatures in that case the only thing that helps that out would be things like Training Grounds, dont waste your time with Strionic Resonator on Yasova Dragonclaw. If your build is not budget i suggest running Food Chain, Bribery, and High Market

@griffstick and @JeffAtom

Read this. Yasova Dragonclaw's ability is triggered, not activated.

I now how it works please leave this one alone. If you copy her triggered ability you still have to pay the activated cost to steal a creature and then pay it again for the other one on the stack.

Yasova Dragonclaw + Strionic Resonator the stack would look like this__"At the begaining of combat on your turn you may pay XYZ. if you do gain control of target creature".

exactly, you don't get it for free you have to pay it again but that is not how you initially posited it. You began by simply saying it doesn't work with Yasova. No context, just a simple it doesn't work.

Then when challenged you reaffirmed your position "Yes it has a triggered ability in it but in the triggered ability there is an activated ability. Thats not copied. Strionic Resonator does not copy and steal another creature infact you would only be wasting 2 mana to copy her triggered ability"It does copy and steal another creature because it copies her triggered ability that says pay 3 mana and steal a creature.

Finally you point out that the stack would look like:"At the beginning of combat on your turn you may pay XYZ. if you do gain control of target creature".

"At the beginning of combat on your turn you may pay XYZ. if you do gain control of target creature".

So yes it does copy her triggered ability, yes you do get to take control of two creatures, but the total mana cost for this is a combined cost of 8 not unreasonable.

totally unreasonable because there's no limit to how many times you can pay this ability. 6 mana total to steal 2 creatures. with Training Grounds 4 total mana to steal.

There is a limit, once since it triggers once at the start of combat you choose your creature to steal and pay your mana end of ability.

http://magicjudge.tumblr.com/post/109270019834/can-i-activate-yasova-dragonclaws-ability

you know what you and that judge has to be right or else this would be broken by infinite mana combos

Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker would be outstanding in here.

i just realized something. Strionic Resonator would be good.

luther i had him in mind Way befor i started this build. He just cost to much money for me, i dont own one. He would be perfect. @DERPLING_SUPREMACY.....no lol. It never worked out for me that well in the past. if someone on in the game new i had that and something like Dominus of Fealty one of the two never made it around. It worked great for late game, but because the deck gets alot of hate i need every ounce of mana to cast spells and Strionic Resonator never saw use. please no more Strionic Resonator lol. I wish i had kiki though.