Super Smash Boros | Firesong & Sunspeaker EDH

Commander / EDH Suns_Champion

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I'm so pissed the combo doesn't work! Boros needed something like this, but it is almost as Wizards are forcing to try to win through test of endurance and felidar sovereign!

March 22, 2018 11:11 a.m.

kawa says... #2

DrukenReaps, if you cast Samite Ministration won't the game draws? Infinite loops cause the stack never empty them you can't finish the effect, isn't it?

March 22, 2018 6:36 p.m.

DrukenReaps says... #3

kawa my understanding at this point is the combo doesn't work.

In the off chance something changes to make the combo work I'll explain anyways:

Cast Samite Ministration

Cast a instant or sorcery that gains you life

target yourself with the commanders 3 damage trigger

damage is prevented and you gain 3 life because of the delayed trigger from samite

this triggers the commander again, you target yourself, prevent the damage, gain the life, etc.

Simply target something else to end the loop after gaining however much life you want.

But at this time the consensus is that this doesn't work.

March 22, 2018 6:48 p.m.

kawa says... #4

One more thing. How anybody talked about... And the combo Isochron Scepter + Paradox Engine + Sol Ring ? I think it would fit like a glove inside this deck :)

March 22, 2018 6:48 p.m.

Suns_Champion says... #5

Thank you all for the upvotes and continued discussion!

TheACTR thanks for bringing that to my attention friend. Don't know how long I would have gone without knowing haha! I'm glad I know now, it's also good because most people building Firesong and Sunspeaker will most likely see this list and be properly informed :)

manticoreknight right?? Me too :( Boros really deserved it

DrukenReaps That's the dream! thanks! Hopefully something else comes up!

kawa too hard to set up, and Paradox Engine doesn't really do much for me here elsewhere.

Thanks for the comments and upvotes!

March 22, 2018 10:23 p.m.

Chiberia says... #6

1 week

almost 90 upvotes

IM SO JEALOUS

March 22, 2018 10:39 p.m.

Suns_Champion says... #7

It's been a while ride idk how it happened. I wonder if I'm setting some sort of record?

March 22, 2018 11:17 p.m.

TheACTR says... #8

No problem Suns_Champion. Happy to help. Knowledge is power and all that. If it helps, Righteous Confluence, like Fiery Confluence has separate triggers on the same spell that would help Firesong and Sunspeaker get extra damage in. And cards like Reviving Dose are Sunforgable and good for the Cantrip life gain and extra damage.

March 23, 2018 8:16 a.m.

TheACTR says... #9

I have a list of my own up on site now, in case you are interested in making comparisons. I don't remember how to leave a shortcut to the deck here, so apologies.

March 23, 2018 8:59 a.m.

Agent_Fire says... #10

What about Blaze Commando? Does it not have a strong enough impact?

March 23, 2018 9:25 a.m.

Flooremoji says... #11

Soulfire Mas In place of the Book of Rass? Or does the chance of blue prevent that? I dont know much about commander...

March 23, 2018 2:35 p.m.

Suns_Champion says... #12

Chiberia it's 2 weeks actually. I uploaded March 9th :)

TheACTR sure I'll have a peek :)

Use the slug(words between the // in the URL) of your deck and plug it in like this:

[[deck-large:super-smash-boros-firesong-sunspeaker-edh]]

The -large isn't needed, it just makes it a thumbnail instead of a text link

Agent_Fire I kinda end up killing my own tokens. I'd include Monastery Mentor before the commando if I end up wanting them.

Flooremoji do you mean Soulfire Grand Master? Can't run becasue of the blue in the ability :)

Also, I like Book of Rass.

Thanks all for 100 upvotes! Love ya all!

March 23, 2018 6:32 p.m.

TransMarx says... #13

Im building this deck as well you beat me to the punch on this one! I think its the only Boros commander that is even remotely interesting

I reccomend Blood Sun normally i wouldnt reccomend it because its just a mediocre card in commander but in Boros turning Guildgates, and tapped duels into all upsides is actually a perk. Boros mana is generally just bad, and the cantrip doesnt hurt either.

Im going with a Boros Reckoner subtheme in my take on the deck seeing cards like Blasphemous Act and Star of Extinction are probs staples for the deck and Im sure we wont have a shortage of red damage based wipes why not get some damage in while doing it! maybe some of the new Dino's may fit in this theme as well with enrage triggers? idk just a thought

cant go wrong with Dualcaster Mage and Balefire Liege

Like Im stoked to finally play a Boros Commander that isnt simply hyperaggro :D

March 23, 2018 8:19 p.m.

Chiberia says... #14

Btw my dude this deck has made me want to make a deck of my won:3, Itd be casual af till I get a job (omg its a hard process!) And still, my highest deck has 47 and thats over the course of like 5 months :(

March 23, 2018 8:48 p.m.

TheACTR says... #15

March 23, 2018 9:42 p.m.

DrukenReaps says... #16

Since you have gotten some actual games in I was wondering if you found you commander to be at risk of being blown up by your own stuff very often? That is my big worry with this deck. My version doesn't have much to protect it and that seems like a rather gaping weakness in the deck currently.

March 25, 2018 8:28 p.m.

Suns_Champion says... #17

TransMarx only interesting Boros commander? Allow me to introduce you to my friend Brion Stoutarm :)

Blood Sun is a no go, as my mana base is solid enough for my liking and it turns of Mistveil Plains.

The Boros Reckoner/Spitemare/Coalhauler Swine rout is totally one I considered. Not sure I'm just really a fan of it personally but I'm sure it would work great.

I've considered both Dualcaster Mage and Balefire Liege and ended up cutting them.

Thanks for the comment!

Chiberia do it! You can always build on Tapped/Out first, no need to buy all the cards before you know what you want! That's what I do anyway. Don't sweat the upvotes too much. The comments and advice are what really matter. Usually my decks are also 6 month processes, this one happened to be e perfect storm of new Boros commander, mine was the first one, the commander became really popular, I featured it 5 times.... so there are a lot of factors :)

TheACTR I will check it out when I have time :)

DrukenReaps Good question. I actually only have 4-5 cards that really kill my own stuff, and those either net me a ton of life(Blasphemous Act) thus making it worth it or it's my attempt to win the game anyway(Molten Disaster). I didn't encounter any of those the other night so I'm not sure, but Mark of Asylum felt like a dead draw twice. More testing is required before I can definitively answer the question, but it didn't feel like a huge concern over 3 games.

March 26, 2018 7:38 a.m.

ReaperDrek says... #18

A very nice deck I must say, but Wizards did give us, Boros players, something to look at, the new equipment Helm of the Host fits Aurelia EDH so well. A few equipment cheaters and tutors and I will be able to go off consistently. Aurelia, the Warleader EDH - Make them panic if you want to check it out. It is not hypeaggro as some would say, but more of an explosive out of nowhere Aurelia, and it will be even more so with the new Helm :D

I would reccomend you to use Acidic Soil, it seems like a really nice card, that should deal like 15 dmg to all opponents and heal you for 60 in the proccess. Good luck with your deck, and I hope the remainder of Dominarnia has some Boros goodstuff ;)

March 26, 2018 5:57 p.m.

ZM4C says... #19

I noticed you don't have Caged Sun

Any particular reason? I ask because I know ramping can be tough in Boros

April 5, 2018 8:11 p.m.

luffington says... #20

Hey! I actually really like this version of them! Painter's Servant is such a dream for them. Upvoted!

Do you mind taking a look at mine as well? I've been working pretty hard on it, and wanted to get some input from other FSSS deckmakers.

Hurloon Brothers - Treat and Heat

April 9, 2018 1:57 a.m.

Suns_Champion says... #21

Thanks for the continued discussion and upvotes everyone!

ReaperDrek thanks you! They really did!

I've been thinking about making an Aurelia deck with Helm of the Host! Acidic Soil I don't like because it never deals all that much damage and it's a sorcery, not an instant. Thanks again!

ZM4C yes there is! Caged Sun comes down turn 6, not helping me ramp when I need it, turns 2, 3 and 4. With a two color mana base, it only applies to %60 of my lands. And the creature buff is wasted because I have so few creatures. Thanks for the question!

luffington thank you! P-Serves is great, screw the ban list amiright?! I'll give yours a look!

April 9, 2018 8:27 p.m.

ZM4C says... #22

Suns_Champion makes sense! I'm actually working on my own FS&SS myself but trying to keep it budget, so if you have any time to look at mine I'd appreciate it! Also, I noticed Healing Grace and Jaya Ballard in the spoilers are pretty neat, especially healing grace! A white bolt with added protection is pretty nice.

April 9, 2018 9:48 p.m.

luffington says... #23

Hey! Suns_Champion I wanted to ask your permission to link your deck on my FsSs deck.

April 12, 2018 5:27 a.m.

Suns_Champion says... #24

luffington Absolutely, that'd be awesome! Thanks!

ZM4C Yup! Those are cool for sure. Invoke the Divine is one I'm looking at. I'll give yours a look!

April 12, 2018 10:50 a.m.

Since you will most likely always have more life than the opponent how about Feudkiller's Verdict? 10 life, 10 damage and a 5/5 for 6 mana

Fumigate over Settle the Wreckage for your wrath

Heroes Remembered big splashy turn one play

How has Mizzix's Mastery been for you with all your X spells? I would swap it out or not do so many X.If your looking for more X because of Neheb, the Eternal you can try Sanguine Sacrament

April 13, 2018 6:58 p.m.

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