Swarm and Conquer V 2.0

Modern xzzane

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comments got too long again —March 13, 2015

Femme_Fatale says... #1

Good choice.

March 5, 2015 3:30 p.m.

xzzane says... #2

I ended up taking 2 out for an extra IoK and a single Dismember. I'll test that out for a while and see how it does.

March 5, 2015 3:32 p.m.

Kjartan says... #3

I agree, I only play 2-3 Zealous Persecution in my versoins of B/W as well, just remember that Lingering Souls sees more and more play by the minute.

Personally I would get both a dismember, and Slaughter Pact actually. I know Dismember is generally a little bit better, but Slaughter Pact really surprises Splintertwin, and it's a nice edge to get. + It kills bigger goyfs. I don't know though, it's just a thought. You don't need to kill of big things THAT early anyways, with the amount of possible blockers you produce.

March 5, 2015 3:34 p.m.

xzzane says... #4

yeah, lingering is the only concern I have, but it's not much of a concern. With an anthem my tokens are more than capable of taking their tokens out. And I like Slaughter Pact for its surprise element, but I think that with 4 paths and a dismember that'll do me just fine to be honest.

March 5, 2015 3:38 p.m.

Kjartan says... #5

Makes sense to me. I think it's fine too, but are you sure you want 7 discarders though, they are immensly powerful against the right machups, and good againt the rest too, but they tend to lose a lot of value over the cause of the game.

I can see the appeal (and the combo player's tears) in having 7 or even 8 of them. Just remember that the early game control you get out of it can backfire if you get nothing else later on.

March 5, 2015 3:45 p.m.

xzzane says... #6

Keep in mind that in the current meta we already do well against the creature based decks. I'd rather have the added support for combatting combo decks.

March 5, 2015 3:48 p.m.

Kjartan says... #7

Yeah okay, that's true, makes sense.

March 5, 2015 3:53 p.m.

GlitterFang says... #8

The only problem with all the discard is the decently big threat of drawing them late game...which sucks. Also, I agree with taking out the Zealous Persecutions. With an evolving meta of 4 or 5 toughness, they're not that great

March 5, 2015 3:58 p.m.

GlitterFang says... #9

However, they do destroy Splinter Twin decks

March 5, 2015 3:58 p.m.

xzzane says... #10

Its a delicate balance for sure. Too little and you don't draw it early enough. Too much and you waste a precious draw in the later end of the game. I think 7 is a good balance though.

March 5, 2015 4 p.m.

GlitterFang says... #11

Yeah it's always a problem. If I were you I would go for 3xInquisition of Kozilek and 3xThoughtseize. But that's just preference... do whatever works best for you

March 5, 2015 4:06 p.m.

Jsusx says... #12

Well as zoo player i mostly board in pyroclasm, abrupt decay (for hymns) or ratchet bomb. When either of those resolves its often enough gg.

March 6, 2015 2:31 a.m.

Geeno says... #13

I like the Dismember instead of Zealous Persecution, I made the same change in made as you could have seen :p that's because most of the times I ended up with 2 on hands doing nothing. Do you think it's worth keeping Mirran Crusader in the sideboard? I know Abzan is one of the most played deck, but it ins't token supposed to be already good against it? What it adds? Other questions, what you think of keeping a hand with only two lands? Since most of the tokens creator are 3 mana, if you don't draw a third land in the next two turns you are in really bad shape.

March 6, 2015 8:04 a.m.

xzzane says... #14

I do think the crusader in the side is worth keeping in. Despite abzan being a good matchup, it is nice to have something to push us just over the top in order to ensure a victory. And keeping a hand with 2 lands is perfectly acceptable. Chances are more than likely that you will draw a land by the time your third turn rolls around.

March 6, 2015 9:18 a.m.

rattulator says... #15

Hi, pretty new to modern, what do you think of Hero of Bladehold in a deck like this?

March 10, 2015 8:31 a.m.

xzzane says... #16

Bladehold is amazing if she manages to stay on the field. A lot of people will use something like Path to Exile on her though, making your turn 4 play useless. Some people sideboard her, so that when people realize they're playing tokens, they take out all of their removal, so they put hero in after the first game.

March 10, 2015 8:40 a.m.

SHADOWBLADE99 says... #17

I have seen speculation on if this card will be good enough for tokens but I wanted to get ur opinion on it but personally I don't want it instead of another spell. Without further ado I give u myth realized

March 12, 2015 5:24 p.m.

xzzane says... #18

It's not good for tokens.

March 12, 2015 5:26 p.m.

GlitterFang says... #19

I would suggest Blood Baron of Vizkopa for sideboard over Mirran Crusader for the Abzan matchup because it can't be hit by a path to exile whereas the crusader can. In addition, the Baron can gain you precious life the same turn your opponent drops a Siege Rhino

March 12, 2015 5:35 p.m.

Kjartan says... #20

Glitterfang it doesn't apply as much preasure, but I can see where you are coming from. It's better in the lategame, it doesn't get pathed, it can be a anti-rhino wall. It's not that good against goyf though, and that is kind of sad, but you usually have other blockers.

I'm not sure, but I can definatelly see where you are coming from.

March 12, 2015 6:06 p.m.

GlitterFang says... #21

Oh yeah true it is worse against goyf but it offers a lifelink blocker against almost anything else and can't be removed so it could definitely be a possibility

March 12, 2015 6:16 p.m.