i had my built some months now and updated it slightly - scroll rack (nice, but not nice enough from my experience ... maybe better than opt) - angel's grace (too narrow, no flash hulk anymore) + fierce guardianship (to have more instant/free protection if i have to sit 1 turn after necro drawing) + talisman of hierarchy (to be a bit quicker)
-> https://tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/zur-all-in/
it is more narrow, but faster/stronger, because on the long run, you lose to other cedh decks anyways :D
July 28, 2020 5:28 p.m.
i had my built some months now and updated it slightly - scroll rack (nice, but not nice enough from my experience ... maybe better than opt) - angel's grace (too narrow, no flash hulk anymore) + fierce guardianship (to have more instant/free protection if i have to sit 1 turn after necro drawing) + talisman of hierarchy (to be a bit quicker)
https://tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/zur-all-in/
it is more narrow, but faster/stronger, because on the long run, you lose to other cedh decks anyways :D
July 28, 2020 5:29 p.m.
I just understood this place :D
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zur-i-win/
that should be a better posting. sorry, i am not able to delete or alter the older comments...
July 28, 2020 5:39 p.m.
So if you're running on a more focused shimmer build, I disagree about scroll rack. It's very good at seeing more cards, and a mediocre card in general for digging with fetches.
Angel's grace is actually MORE relevant now that games are slower and you will likely be nausing with lower life. Note that it stops a consult Thoracle win for a single white.
The 'free when commander is out' tutors are too narrow IMO. They're overcosted for 3, we don't even run 2 cmc negate, and they're only good for the specific case of protecting while zur is out. They're good during combo turns, but almost no other time.
I hate to say it, but since Thoracle, I think a deck such as https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zur-midrange-consult/ does better.
July 30, 2020 1:34 p.m.
I think, midrange with Zur is not what you can play. Then play partners. You have 1 more card in hand.
If you play Zur, you search for Necro. If you search for Necro, you do not need Toxic Deluge for example. It drains your life.
Just go all in. I better play one turn earlier my Ad Naus withouth Grace and hope for the best. Grace is too narrow. What if the Ad gets countered? Dead card. Maybe it could have been a Dispel instead...
Same for the book. Midrange, yes, its stronger. For an instant start, I prefer a rock and one turn earlier my commander.
August 1, 2020 7:39 p.m.
Deathstroke_CZ says... #7
Hi, what about Bolas's Citadel? It's combo with Sensei's Divining Top and Aetherflux Reservoir which are both already in deck.
November 1, 2020 10:28 a.m.
Bolas is too expensive for cEDH and as an artifact, it will not last long, too. You focus on the main combos better.
my deck is similar but even more focused: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/just-straight-zur/
in cEDH you only need one combo you want to have the pieces together and a plan B. sometimes, plan C, but that is it.
November 2, 2020 6:42 p.m.
Kevinmk760 says... #9
Are these possible updates to the list?
-Aven Mindcensor +Opposition Agent
-Angel's Grace +Scout's Warning
Where can we fit in Jeweled Lotus and Hullbreacher
November 12, 2020 9:06 a.m.
Kevinmk760 says... #10
In addition to my previous question, do we consider Copy Artifact + Wishclaw Talisman or Peer into the Abyss?
November 12, 2020 9:57 a.m.
We definitely don't want peer into the abyss, but I've added opposition agent, hullbreacher, and the lotus
November 12, 2020 2:24 p.m.
i updated my zur list, not only to fit in the new 3 but also i reduced from 10 fetches down to 6. i think we have to go down there due to the agent... and i added gilded drake (i know, he is not instant speed, but maybe sometimes with scouts warning), because more interaction to creatures will be needed soon.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/just-straight-zur/
November 15, 2020 2:33 p.m.
Suasion are you still updating your list for tainted shimmer zur? i've always enjoyed your lists.
June 26, 2021 3:10 a.m.
Thanks beg2die and all! I'm getting back into it after a long hiatus. The new list is https://www.moxfield.com/decks/8PLH6hm_NEqVc8tM7wTqqQ
Suasion says... #1
Barbola It was originally in this and the non tainted version for a little while. It was a disappointing draw most of the time, and usually unnecessary. It's good in edge cases, but manual storm is very consistent, and we need to keep up card quality as much as possible.
Unlike commanders that just need to assemble a 2 card combo (dramatic scepter) we need to assemble a 3 card combo; Zur is not an outlet for infinite mana.
June 22, 2020 3:40 p.m. Edited.