dorminjake says... #2
Sphinxes reinstated for good behavior.
@mmazach I chose red over white simply because Blasphemous Act is easier to cast then the double-white Day of Judgment, though to be honest I think DoJ is just dandy in this deck. Stonehorn Dignitary is also a good option. I mostly just went red out of preference. I think either splash color is fine here.
Along those same lines, black might even be a decent option for milling purposes. Black Sun's Zenith would be your board wipe, and you could use things like Memoricide and Surgical Extraction (which I have) to delete things from your opponent's library. The colors in this deck are really pretty negotiable, after blue and green.
February 27, 2012 12:16 a.m.
parasitian says... #3
Its funny I saw some person running a very similar deck, he used white instead of red for day of judgement and Phyrexian Unlife, he also had some life-gaining effects, like Elixir of Immortality and Pristine Talisman but they didn't use Moonmist, Blunt the Assault, and Rites of Flourishing. I witnessed him winning an opponent's spirit deck. I asked him if he got the idea from a website, but he said he thought of it himself.
February 27, 2012 12:25 a.m.
dorminjake says... #4
Turbofog is an archetype that's been around for a while (example: http://www.wizards.com/magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/deck/191), so it isn't really all that original. But now that there's a fourth green fog in standard (thanks, Clinging Mists), it's no surprise that it's popping up here and there among more experimental types.
February 27, 2012 12:30 a.m.
I'm an old player, so I remember the old archetypes :D and while yes Venser + Stonehorn is virtually similar and has been run a bit lately (at least in my meda in UW Control decks), the joy of 16 fogs (18 in mine if you count Gideon), 4 noxious revivals, and in my case two doj... gets silly fast :) Hell, I've even thought of adding Charmbreaker Devils to keep getting the fogs back. Oh and Blightsteel Colossus as an alternate win con that NO ONE sees coming in a turbo fog deck is priceless (which is why I also run Karn Liberated)
February 27, 2012 12:58 a.m.
dorminjake says... #8
Oh my gods, Charmbreaker Devils! I...I want to run these. I--. Yes indeed.
Dies horrifically to removal, but so does Consecrated Sphinx. The Sphinx's enemy draw step ability triggers sooner than the Devils' your next upkeep ability though, so sorcery-speed removal would kill the devils without you ever getting to net any card advantage.
And both are 6-drops. I'm going to have to think about this for--
Nvm, I'm including Charmbreaker Devils, because Charmbreaker Devils.
Thanks Nephilim!
February 27, 2012 1:19 a.m.
No problem dorminjake. though i'd love some credit in the description lol :p
February 27, 2012 1:31 a.m.
I applaud you good sir. I would probably also Update the chat to somewhat clear up this 80+ posts so its easier read so long as there arent still applicable suggestions.
But, even if there is only 2 or 3, I would definately add back in Jace's Erasure. Its such a hard to deal with card pre-side board and even if you only get 1 out, its still that extra mill a turn. It would just make things faster.
February 27, 2012 2:21 a.m.
OrgasmAndTea says... #13
Charmbreaker Devils is a truly fantastic suggestion. Cudoes Nephilim =)
February 27, 2012 6:01 a.m.
I, personally, see a lot of werewolves with Kessig, so I'm wondering what this deck would do against them? Moonmist is crap against them and they can be awfully agro. Anything on that? Oh, and +1 because I love Turbo-Fog builds
February 28, 2012 1:26 a.m.
Charmbreaker Devils is so nuts.
Most fun thing in the world is to have only Dissipates in your yard and Devils on the board. Guess what's going to be played whenever your opponent plays a spell? :D It's even worth using a Nihil Spellbomb on yourself for.
February 28, 2012 3:33 a.m.
wingshad0w says... #17
In my opinion Jace's Erasure is worth it. Even as a 2-3 of. A turn 2 erasure, turn 3 rite, (turn 4 looking pretty) turn 5 jace is the stupidest play you can do. And by stupid I mean the best. I use it in my (somewhat less than stellar) deck:blue-green-standard-mill-fog. Regardless I still think this deck is awesome and taking it to an FNM gets credit from me.
February 28, 2012 2:11 p.m.
@wizard924- I've beaten Kessig on a consistent basis. Hell, this FNM I was at 1 life and 9 infect but he couldn't get the job done before I milled him out. In decks like this, think of life (and poison) as just another resource to stall with. It kills me to watch people Fog against four or even six points of damage.
February 28, 2012 2:51 p.m.
dorminjake says... #19
@wizard924 The only card werewolves really ruin is Moonmist, which is more annoying than game breaking for game 1. After game 1, you just sideboard in something to replace the Moonmists, perhaps Witchbane Orbs to prevent the damage caused by Ravager of the Fells flipping or something unexpected like a Tovolar's Magehunter.
February 28, 2012 2:56 p.m.
theurbanraptor says... #20
i wonder if is playable in a turbo fog, gain some life while negating combat, then if you can't mill them, you can deplete their life with the flip, Chalice of Death
February 28, 2012 2:57 p.m.
theurbanraptor says... #21
oh also, check out my current FNM baby, Son of a Lich! [U/B Control]
February 28, 2012 2:58 p.m.
dorminjake says... #22
I don't see working well. My usual strategy is to tank the first few hits from creatures before I start fogging, which usually takes me down pretty low. Since the chalice only restores 1 life per activation, it's going to take a really long time to get to 30, even with Blunt the Assault helping on occasion.
Anyway, if I had room for the chalice, I'd probably put Jace's Erasure back in instead. As it stands, the Erasures really just make my opponent angry more than it actually wins games, but at least it synergizes well with everything else in the deck.
February 28, 2012 3:02 p.m.
If only Howling Mine/ Jace Beleren was in standard...
mmazach says... #1
idk if this was already said. but i would take out red for white and run Day of Judgment and Stonehorn Dignitary
February 26, 2012 11:47 p.m.