Tana and Tymna Blood Pod - Primer

Commander / EDH* LabManiac_Luke

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monogoodshit says... #1

Are there any cards you think I could slot in against the animat deck? Played against it several times and it just wrecks me.

September 14, 2017 4:34 p.m.

monogoodshit says... #2

Animar*

September 14, 2017 4:34 p.m.

LabManiac_Luke says... #3

Just lean on your Rule of Law stuff and exploit the low removal density those decks play.

September 15, 2017 12:29 a.m.

Zarathustra616 says... #4

I played Animar competitively for about a year and I can vouch for Luke's suggestion. Animar plays like a pseudo-storm deck. Without Recruiter, Ancestral, or Cloudstone loops it's nearly impossible to win.

September 16, 2017 1:47 p.m.

LeonDaniels says... #5

I'm not much of a competitive player and I know that either of these would be kind of dead cards outside of this one particular situation, but in the event that you do need to go full stax doesn't Blinkmoth Well + Static Orb or Auriok Transfixer + Static Orb allow everyone else too only untap two cards, and us too untap all of them?

During the player before us' end step, activate Blinkmoth Well/Auriok Transfixer tapping Static Orb. At the beginning of our turn, we untap everything, including Static Orb, but since it was tapped during the untap step we get too untap everything. Rinse, Repeat.

I like the primer, really helpful, and I really like this deck strategy. I do understand that this is built for a competitive environment, but do you know of any more casual or budget decklists that I might be able to run?

Thank you so much!

September 22, 2017 3:16 p.m.

Sgtpopnfreash says... #6

So do you evel feel like Stony Silence or Null Rod screw you over? I feel like having hard to remove permanents that prevent your win-con is questionable.

September 25, 2017 7:52 a.m.

bucket_boy101 says... #7

Is Restoration angel just bad in this deck? Combos nicely with kiki and can generate advantage.

September 25, 2017 3:07 p.m.

ToSGod says... #8

Anything in Ixalan look interesting for this? I've been looking at the Ruin Raider. (Raid Bob)

September 29, 2017 8:54 a.m.

w3ncy says... #9

Sgtpopnfreash Stony Silence and Null Rod I think are one of the most useful cards in the deck especially when you have competitive decks in your meta. This deck is not really for combo players, you use this if you enjoy giving your combo deck opponents a very hard time instead of winning t2-t3.

LabManiac_Luke, I've added three (3) cards in the deck and I'd love to hear your thoughts about each.

  • Living Plane: This actually gave me a lock down win yesterday. T6 an opponent casted Cyclonic Rift putting away Eidolon, my two commanders, Anafenza, etc. but I had enough mana the ff turn to Demonic Tutor and cast Linvala to delay the game further. Then the next turn, I played Living Plane and Stony Silence which locked lands and artifacts of opponents. The next turn, tutored for Elesh and everybody conceded.
  • Gaddock Teeg: I just felt that even though he is not as popular now, he still might be of some use. I do understand that competitive decks now try to build their decks as mana efficient as possible but cards like Ad Naus, Mind's Desire, Aetherflux, etc. will be stopped. He did a significant delay in one of my playgroups (that time was a 6-man pod) recently.
  • Aura Shards: Since most of our stax is creature-based, do you think this is worth putting in?
September 30, 2017 9:27 a.m.

Lexipants says... #11

Actually eerrr never mind. I disagree with myself.

September 30, 2017 7:07 p.m.

Vegnus says... #12

Nice one.

Where i can find a graph of cEDH top tier information? It will update automatically when metagame changed?

October 1, 2017 11:36 p.m.

dhoby87 says... #13

Any thoughts on Restoration Angel?

October 4, 2017 2:03 a.m.

Sgtpopnfreash says... #14

What would be the point of restoration angel? It's just another delicate gardian except it is more narrow.

October 4, 2017 4:26 a.m.

Restoration Angel would be an alternate Kiki-Jiki wincon alongside Village Bell-Ringer and Felidar Guardian. It can be used to reset Yisan or Phyrexian Revoker and it can get extra value out of Eternal Witness, Rec Sage, or Sun Titan. However, I think it's probably not cost effective enough for this deck.

October 4, 2017 9:12 p.m.

Sgtpopnfreash says... #16

There is no need for 3 of those style of effects in this deck

October 5, 2017 3:32 a.m.

PlattBonnay says... #17

What is the reason for playing Ulvenwald Tracker?

October 6, 2017 4:42 p.m.

roguelikedev says... #18

I bought and used your exact list for a handful of games (love it!) but was confused by the graveyard interactions: Leyline of the void is fat and RIP only turns off the line where you don't have tana out and have to pod felidar into karmic guide; there is half a reanimation package, missing entomb effects, are you supposed to draw so much off tymna that you discard fattys to hand size? Obviously you can steal an enemy hulk or whatever but some of it is restricted to friendly GY.

October 9, 2017 3:17 a.m.

The reanimate effects are always good with the package of large creatures we run. You're not so much trying to discard then reanimate them, but more just use reanimate to bring back your huge creatures and continue to grind people down.

Leyline beats out RiP because its more in the list to combat breakfast hulk and other decks that can kill us on turn 2 unless we have grave hate super early. There has also been a resurgence of combo decks that really don't like random grave hate.

October 14, 2017 12:56 p.m.

dhoby87 says... #20

October 15, 2017 10:53 a.m.

roguelikedev says... #21

Kataki has been great in the games I've drawn him but I wouldn't tutor it. Following null rod with kataki against someone like teferi puts them out of the game either until they draw a bunch of islands or until forever depending on the situation.

October 16, 2017 4:41 p.m.

Nezzukia says... #22

Question why run the ulvenwald tracker? Is it because of the meta being small creatures?

October 27, 2017 4:20 a.m.

Haeskirle says... #23

Stupid question,After running this the other night. Got to say I love it but can you explain the sideboard better? I don't see where Inferno Titan or Ghave come into the picture.

I also saw this has Kiki and wants to do stuff in cEDH. I know Kikicelebrant might be too costly and same for Kikiscripts but what about streamlining the creatures and toss in Finks combo or Deathcap combo?

November 1, 2017 2 p.m.

Sgtpopnfreash says... #24

This deck doesnt need more than two different routs to a Kiki -Jiki combo. Having others would just decrease the amount of stacks pieces you have which is bad.

November 1, 2017 4:21 p.m.

roguelikedev says... #25

some reasons that tracker makes it into every blood pod list, in descending (IMHO) order of importance: trade bear/dork for lab man/notion thief, use mana you held up for interaction to bash something, delete the odd yisan or consecrated sphinx that survives Elesh Norn.

reasons for inferno titan or ghave: win combats.

i'm serious. fully optimized blood pod runs cards that just hit things for damage. i love this deck so much.

sun titan replaces inferno titan in a grindy build. contenders for ghave's slot include creakwood liege, mirror entity, and others i forget.

November 1, 2017 11:38 p.m.

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