Doesn't grafdigger stop mission briefing, neoform and bolas' citadel?

Exuviae - Yes it does. However those are just inconveniences for us. It stop a Hulk from winning immediately. With flash in the meta, if I could turn 1 this every game, things would be a LOT easier.

SK00MA - it is because of the +1/+1 counter. It turns any single mana dork into a dork that at least taps for more than 1 mana. It is a huge upgrade and worth it. You don't need to have Freed from the Real in hand, it is an amazing ramp play on its own. The additional upside of turning Tasigur into a Nezahal is really frustrating for opponent's as well. Diabolic intent is okay, but I would probably run other tutors first, such as Imperial Seal or Grim Tutor.

What are your thoughts on Oko, Thief of Crowns ?

Urborg Elf is decent if you want another mana dork.

LabManiac_Cameron Have you ever tried out Vigean Graftmage it goes infinite with Incubation Druid

KillDatBUG - Oko is really solid, I've been testing with him for a bit. He's good.

Lowly_Hollow - Urborg Elf just costs too much. 2 cmc to create only 1 mana isn't worth while.

Ulamomma - Vigean Graftmage isn't worth while. It only has an interaction with Incubation Druid. If this was a Flash + Protean Hulk deck trying to generate infinite mana with it, then sure. However Neoform does this job a lot more efficiently and wit

Yeah, I definitely see that point.

Awesome deck, I really love how streamlined this build had gotten over the iterations. I have been considering proxying this deck off to practice with it, and maybe start getting cards, but I can't decide between this and 4 Color Rashmi. How do the two decks compare? I mostly just want a sweet control deck to compliment my Najeela Hulk deck. Thanks.

I don't suppose there have been any updates to this list? I assume something like Drown in the Loch would go in this list but I don't think it does anything better than other cards in the list. would be good to see what changes you would make.

Sean6919 - Not yet. I've been pretty busy with School, but I am testing, we have a few different things I'm going for. Drown 100% in.

Great list! out of curiosity, what are the cards you are currently testing over other cards?

I just found seasons past a little worse after Pradox Engine banned, or just not so good.

LabManiac_Cameron I believe I speak for a lot of people here when I ask are you planing to write an update soon? I would be very grateful even to know what you tested and rejected from new sets. Love the deck and looking forward to new content!

Cameron, can we get an updated list please with the newest cards if your playing any?

Curious to see how Eldraine has changed your build! Or perhaps an update after the new set drops in January? Happy New Year!

To anyone looking for Eldraine updates to the list, Drown in the Loch has proven its worth and viability. I wouldn't expect to see many other major updates from Cameron otherwise. I suppose Oakhame Adversary is something to consider as a card advantage engine too, but I think that's a bit more meta dependent.

I feel obligated to ask... Where is the Arcane Signet???

I assume fellwar stone comes out and Signet goes in as it’s strictly better. Or are you considering running both.

Also, secondary question...

If your meta isn’t good for a neoform line or you aren’t a fan of that line. what do you replace the 3 slots with?

So any new changes with TBD being released? Just curious.

What changes would you recommend from the latest sets? I'd suggest replacing Copy Artifact with Mirrormade.

The Great Henge seem awesome

Great deck! Has long been my favorite of the lab maniacs decks and I have been developing my own version parallel to yours for a long time except I still run Freed from the Real combos and it is more budget friendly. My question is why I haven't seen you test Reap before which I have found to be very impactful at any point in the game. Also, what kind of combo density is appropriate for the goals of this deck? I also run Phantasmal Image and Palinchron as the tutors such as Neoform run parallel between that combo and freed lines, but I wonder if I have lost focus from the control elements to create more winning conditions. Lastly, Any news on more from you guys? Busy lives I know, but are you going to be playing Tasigur, the Golden Fang more this season?

I recommend Imperial Recruiter for the new build

Sawyer3 Imperial Recruiter is red

Haha, I'm totally stuck in my Kenrith mindset :/

Thanks for the humbling reminder